Todd Helbing Explains “Superman & Lois” Season 2 Finale

Superman & Lois

SPOILER WARNING: In a new interview with TheFlashPodcast, “Superman & Lois” showrunner Todd Helbing explains some of the points made in the Season 2 finale of the series.

In regards to the decision to have “Superman & Lois” separate from the other “Arrowverse” shows, and set on a different earth, Helbing explains:

“I had a conversation with DC, in season 1 about this, there was a desire to put our own stamp on the Superman mythology and just have it be able to function on its own. But the more we got through season 1 and the end of the season 2, it’s just felt more honest to not have it be on the same planet. I think when all the other shows were on at the same time, it was easier to do references like The Flash in Central City and Supergirl in National City. But for our show, like our big bads became so huge, and there’s no way like, having two worlds merging, but everybody won’t be there. Unfortunately, now that these other shows are no longer going to be on the air, it just didn’t feel like it was gonna be rewarding. I’m sure there’s gonna be some fans out there that are upset. I totally understand, but I think the decision was just made to keep our show on a different planet and do the best we can.”

As for John Diggle and his role, Helbing explains:

“This is the doppelganger of John Diggle, he’s one of the many doppelgangers that exist. There are similar things that happened because I couldn’t reveal what we’re planning in season 1,. So when Lois and Clark talk about they know about the Multiverse, we were very careful the wording and then when Diggle shows up in season 1, he’s a doppelganger, who at some point got presented this box in probably a very similar fashion. There was an Oliver Queen that he worked with. There are probably a few other superheroes that he worked with, but none of them had powers. So it wasn’t an Oliver Queen that died on that Earth, but Superman was the first powered superhero to show up. So what Diggle was referencing is there were other people there, but there was nobody like Superman. He’s the greatest. He’s the best. He’s the only one who could fly. He’s the best of all time. So that’s sort of the canon that we’re working with.”

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June 29, 2022 6:28 pm

I’m not necessarily upset it is set on another Earth. I am kinda annoyed that it took them TWO YEARS to say this. Feels like they were just teasing fans of other Arrowverse shows (mainly Supergirl).

June 29, 2022 7:41 pm

The show already made enough changes to the “core” Superman mythos that I was already looking upon it as a much better than average Elseworlds story. But it’s nice to essentially have confirmation of it.

June 29, 2022 8:35 pm

I’m glad that this version of Superman is not the same one from Supergirl’s show or the crossovers. There were a lot of problems with the version of Superman that he played prior to this series. I feel like that this is a fresh start for Tyler’s Superman. A soft reboot of his Superman in a way. This current version of Superman never played second fiddle to other characters or his cousin. This Superman didn’t say to Supergirl that “the world doesn’t need Superman when it has Supergirl.” or “ You are Earth’s true champion” to Supergirl after she beat… Read more »

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June 30, 2022 8:16 am

It should have been clear from the jump that this was a different universe. Morgan Edge/Tal-Rho breaks the Arrowverse Supergirl’s timeline 900 ways to Sunday. Supergirl’s Morgan Edge was a [minor] villain who, IIRC, attempted to take down Lena Luthor and was one of Reign’s first targets. And his headquarters was in National City along with Lena. None of this reconciles with Tal-Rho’s activities in Superman and Lois. Tal-Rho and Samantha Arias had exactly the same goal to turn Earth into a New Krypton. Only the Witches of Juru didn’t have Zeta-Rho’s Eradicator to bring the Kryptonian consciousness along for… Read more »

June 30, 2022 6:58 pm

Excellent news this show is set in it’s own universe. I’ll take solo Superman Justice Leagues or whatever other team-ups there are. Especially since this show has proven to be way better then anything that came before in the arrowverse. For me Hoechlin is the best live action Superman we’ve had since Reeve and he deserves the spot light all to himself.

July 1, 2022 2:13 pm

I just realized that since this series is separate from the arrow-verse, they could cast a new actor for the role of Lex Luthor. A fresh take on the character. So who could play “the greatest criminal mind of our time”? No offense to Jon Cryer, but I really do think it’s time to cast a new Lex Luthor. One that has no ties to Supergirl’s series. A reintroduction for the the character. A Reboot of Lex just like what they did with Morgan Edge. Maybe do something different like maybe Lex was a self made superhero with the billions… Read more »

July 1, 2022 2:27 pm
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Or what if they mix Luthor’s story with Metallo’s. Like what if Lex Luthor had been experimenting with kryptonite to power machines? And then there was a horrible accident which Superman tried to save him from. Having been severely injured, the world believes him to have either died or had decided to hide from the public due to his serious injury. But then years later he resurfaces looking like he’s completely healed until he reveals that he used his technology to make himself a cyborg with a kryptonite hart to power his new body. Blaming Superman for what has happened… Read more »

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