Zack Snyder Proves the “Snyder Cut” of “Justice League” Exists

December 4, 2019 Movie News 45

Perhaps on the back of Henry Cavill revealing that he’s never seen the infamous “Snyder Cut” of the “Justice League” movie, and doesn’t know if such a thing even exists, director Zack Snyder took to his Vero social media account today to share a photo of several film reel shipping containers with the label “Z.S. JL Directors Cut”.

Snyder’s image is overlaid with text reading, “Is it real? Does it exist? Of course it does”.

The labels on the containers also indicate that the running time of this cut of the film is 214 minutes.

What do you think? Will we ever see Snyder’s cut of “Justice League”?

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svillar13
svillar13
December 4, 2019 5:09 pm

Boom Mic Drop!

Kal-Ed
Kal-Ed
December 4, 2019 5:18 pm

Well, well, welllllllll!!!!!

In that case, what are you waiting for!? Release the Snyder cut! I’m pretty sure it’s just a matter of time till the news of the release pop up.

redcape
redcape
December 4, 2019 5:40 pm
Reply to  Kal-Ed

Agree to the max!!

redcape
redcape
December 4, 2019 5:47 pm

This is looking more and more like only a few key scenes MAY be missing to complete his cut. By the way, Henry had said, regarding Zack’s cut, his part had already been done and completed before the cast re-call. So you can bet that Zack’s cut has a totally different sequence of Superman’s place in the movie. For god sake…. LET’S SEE IT!!!

Kal-Ed
Kal-Ed
December 4, 2019 6:14 pm
Reply to  redcape

Damn straight we will. Patience is a virtue. The last time I saw a movie with over 3 hours runtime was..lemme see…the Lord of the rings extended editions and once upon a time in America. But the story told was worth it.

svillar13
svillar13
December 5, 2019 7:33 pm
Reply to  redcape

Nope it just came out today that Whedon removed 90% of Snyder’s scenes. That is a lot bro… this is Superman II all over again! The Snyder Cut is almost a different movie altogether!

redcape
redcape
December 6, 2019 1:39 pm
Reply to  svillar13

It was said that the WB threw out most of Snyder’s cut.(not positively confirmed) And this was from somebody who supposedly worked on both, but more so with Zack. Said when he saw the version we got, it was according to him, a totally different movie than what Zack had put together with only 10% of Zack’s work.

redcape
redcape
December 4, 2019 5:55 pm

One other worthy note. The JL we got was only 120 minutes. That’s 2 hours! Look at the running time for Zack’s, 214 minutes!! How much of that would end up on the floor no one knows except Zack. BUT..maybe there’s more than enough to piece together a lose completion of his cut. Never the less,…bring it on!!!!!!!!

afriend
afriend
December 4, 2019 6:05 pm

Silly question, but why is a film that was almost certainly shot digitally being held in film cannisters?

Superman2878
Superman2878
December 4, 2019 6:12 pm
Reply to  afriend

Is it real? Maybe. But will we see it if it is? I’m not sure. I think that if it does exist it would have to have the green light from WB. I know that I’m stating the obvious, but I just want to keep that in mind.

DrAwkward
DrAwkward
December 4, 2019 8:57 pm
Reply to  afriend

Zack only shoots on film. Here 35mm specifically, as he fell in love with the aspect ratio after using IMAX on BvS. That said, the Whedon reshoots were digital and a digital intermediary is- of course- the norm today regardless of shooting on film. The fact that a print exists and not JUST a digital intermediary hard drive, suggests a final, presentable cut.

Source: http://collider.com/justice-league-interview-fabian-wagner-superman-black-suit/ (Cinematographer Wagner confirms principle photography was entirely on 35 mm film)

svillar13
svillar13
December 5, 2019 7:34 pm
Reply to  afriend

I think I read somewhere that Zack did it on film because he likes the old process. I could be wrong.

DrAwkward
DrAwkward
December 4, 2019 9:05 pm

If the only thing Superman fans get out of the Director’s Cut is more footage of Henry Cavill in the suit without his face mangled by visual effects, I think that’s worth it. All of principle photography was done with Cavill’s natural face. So there’s a plethora of cinematic Superman yet unseen. Top it off if we get the actual original intended STORY beats reliant on the Superman mythos. Lois accepting Clark’s proposal and their subsequent celebration and reunion. That’s a comic book landmark that was advertised but not delivered! Lois and Martha having a legitimate heart to heart about… Read more »

Superman2878
Superman2878
December 4, 2019 10:05 pm
Reply to  DrAwkward

If what this picture shows is true, then the question has to be asked, why doesn’t WB want to release it? Has anyone ever asked them why they don’t want to release it for that matter? What’s their explanation, what’s their side of the story?

DrAwkward
DrAwkward
December 5, 2019 3:47 am
Reply to  Superman2878

It’s a looooong story. The official line is no comment. The unofficial line is disinformation fed through unnamed sources to trades, but largely disinterested in revisiting the past. In 2010 (based on a 2008 Goyer / Nolan script), Snyder was hired under the WB CEO Meyer’s office while being fully protected for Man of Steel and the production of BvS by Nolan and the executives at the time. The new WB CEO Kevin Tsujihara came in after everything was in motion and- initially- tried to stay hands-off while WB underwent an executive shake-up in preparation for a sale / merger.… Read more »

Kal-Ed
Kal-Ed
December 5, 2019 8:10 am
Reply to  DrAwkward

Wonderful. I Couldn’t have explained it better.

Superman2878
Superman2878
December 5, 2019 9:17 am
Reply to  DrAwkward

I am a bit skeptical about there actually being a Snyder cut I admit that, however if it does exist and if it ever does come out, I would watch it because I’m curious on how different it would be compared to the theatrical version. Time will tell if it ever will come out I guess.

Superman2878
Superman2878
December 5, 2019 9:33 am
Reply to  DrAwkward

So basically the reason why they haven’t released it yet is because they were embarrassed of all of that technicality? Am I understanding this right? I don’t mean to put you on the spot or anything like that, I’m just trying to understand it really.

redcape
redcape
December 5, 2019 1:40 pm
Reply to  DrAwkward

THAT was great info !! Thanks.

sundevil82
sundevil82
December 10, 2019 10:24 pm
Reply to  DrAwkward

I’ve said from the the get go the execs were the true legion of doom starting with that idiot Kevin Tsujihara. I personally don’t think emmerich should have a job either. Freaking clowns. I actually think they began meddling quite literally when man of steel was still in theaters, forcing Snyder to insert Batman in a sequel, which would have been fine, but then they pushed and pushed until Batman co headlined and eventually over took Superman entirely. I will never shed a tear for those heads rolling. And while Snyder’s vision isn’t exactly what I had in mind and… Read more »

sundevil82
sundevil82
December 5, 2019 12:01 am

This tells me 1 of 2 things, either a cut does exist and something is being worked out behind the scenes or Zack never wants to work with WB ever again.

DrAwkward
DrAwkward
December 5, 2019 3:10 am
Reply to  sundevil82

The latter is possible but unlikely. Zack is a producer on all the DC Films using actors he cast- WW84, Aquaman 2, Flash, etc- and has an on-going first-look deal with Warners (negotiated as part of him stepping down from JL). That said, his net worth is over $40M, he’s actively employed with a Netflix film already in post production, at only 50 he’s directed 10 feature films with a combined box-office of $3.2B… a career many only can dream of. If he wants to retire or is feeling secure enough to confront WB, it’s absolutely understandable. And this gives… Read more »

sundevil82
sundevil82
December 5, 2019 3:31 pm
Reply to  DrAwkward

Actual hands on producer? Or producer in name only? That could just be part of his contract. Remember Chris Nolan and Emma Thomas were listed as producers of BvS yet they had nothing to do with it.

DrAwkward
DrAwkward
December 5, 2019 4:30 pm
Reply to  sundevil82

If past is prologue, he’d be a real producer. Zack is actually IN Wonder Woman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhUTyMr7QR0) and features in the Disc extra interviews. Zack brainstormed with Wan and they screened their movies for each other. WW’s 2nd unit director / action choreographer was HIS 2nd unit / stunt director on ALL his films. I mean Zack’s name is synonymous with action and this is guy responsible for Zack’s action… and Zack has him on WW. Zack’s crew is like family, he always works with the same people again and again, so he’s very hands on with what he’s producing. But… Read more »

sundevil82
sundevil82
December 5, 2019 9:13 pm
Reply to  DrAwkward

I understand he was a part of those films, I don’t think he will be part of their sequels or any other dc movies going forward. His name might appear but I think that will be it.

Kal-Elvis
Kal-Elvis
December 9, 2019 4:27 pm
Reply to  sundevil82

That would be my educated guess. He probably has to be listed as producer for contractual reasons. The rest, at least moving forward, I’m not sure about.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
December 5, 2019 7:31 am

Bless his little heart. There’s a real chance that this is all a marketing ploy and he has already been in talks to release his cut of the movie, but if that’s not the case, hats off to him for taking the p**s. Lest we forget, WB insinuated themselves in the creative process consistently and when their involvement backfired, they used his kid’s suicide as an out to boot him from the project.

I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t be nearly as coy with an employer that pulled this on me.

sundevil82
sundevil82
December 5, 2019 8:36 pm
Reply to  NeoRanger

My thoughts as well.

Superman2878
Superman2878
December 5, 2019 2:33 pm

As I said before, I admit that I’m not a fan of Cavill’s version of Superman WB, and that I am a fan of Routh’s Superman. However, I am willing to compromise. Now hear me out WB. Now what if you make a Superman movie trilogy with both Routh’s Kingdom Come Superman and Cavill’s Man of Steel Superman? They could team up to fight Magog. Think about the success in this WB. I picture it as Magog going from earth to earth hunting various Supermen. Until he fails with Routh’s Superman. He then travels to Cavill’s Superman’s earth but Routh’s… Read more »

Superman2878
Superman2878
December 5, 2019 2:55 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

I just want to see more of Routh’s Superman again after the crossover. He’s my second favorite Superman actor next to Reeve. I’m even willing to see Routh and Cavill share screen time both as Superman just to see him return to the cape.

redcape
redcape
December 5, 2019 5:49 pm

The rumors keep coming. There’s now an article on the yahoo home page where an individual that worked on the JL claims after Zack was gone the WB had thrown out most of what Zack had done. Apparently from his perspective when watching the JL we got, it was his opinion that there was approximately 10% of Zack’s work mixed within the re-shoots. So the question remains, what’s in those film canisters? Or could this this article have been a ploy to side track all this new interest in seeing Zack’s cut?

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
December 5, 2019 6:46 pm
Reply to  redcape

We roughly know how much of Snyder was in the movie. Batman’s opening scene was Whedon, the guy that played the robber confirmed it. Wondy’s intro was likely Snyder, but the ending of that scene (the bomb) might’ve been changed. “Thirsty” was probably Whedon. Batman and Alfred on the plane was Whedon. Bruce and Arthur might’ve been Snyder. Victor’s earlier scenes were Snyder, but truncated. Clark vs the League was Snyder (no CGI face), but color-graded and the ending re-shot (CGI face). Pet Cemetery was likely Whedon. Clark on the farm could be at least partly Snyder, but a lot… Read more »

Superman2878
Superman2878
December 5, 2019 6:53 pm
Reply to  NeoRanger

What’s the difference between Snyder’s Superman resurrection scene and Whedon’s? Did they both have Superman fight the JL or was it only in Whedon’s take? Does anyone know?

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
December 5, 2019 7:21 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

We don’t know 100%. Cavill’s face wasn’t touched up during the fight, which points to the scene having been shot by Snyder. Also, there is a shot of the four in the park from the earlier trailers, right before they take on Kal; only in that shot, it’s night-time, which explains the odd time-jump between going in the Kryptonian ship at night and then fighting Superman in the daylight in the final cut. That same shot exists in the finished film, but it’s no longer night outside. Superman’s “Do you bleed” was clearly a re-shot, however, which also raises questions… Read more »

JasEl
JasEl
December 5, 2019 9:44 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

Superman definitely fights the League in the SC, in fact, I’ve read from several sources that Superman joins Darksied and doesn’t come back until the supposed 5th movie in the series.

svillar13
svillar13
December 5, 2019 10:19 pm
Reply to  JasEl

Can’t be, in the trailer it showed Lois interacting with Clark in the fields. The dialogue was completely different.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
December 6, 2019 2:44 am
Reply to  svillar13

That was in the original draft, when Justice League was supposed to be three movies. Even the Snyder cut of the film was severely changed from the original pitch. They rewrote it while shooting and Geoff Johns changed a lot of it even when Snyder was still directing. The fight and the field were there, the Darkseid bit was changed. Darkseid was supposed to show up at the end, when Steppenwolf is pulled through the boom tube, but that would be a special effect and thus isn’t in the cut either way.

svillar13
svillar13
December 5, 2019 10:17 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

If you all remember it was clearly established in Man of Steel that the codex (in essence all the genetic information of Krypton,) was now located in Kal-El’s blood. Most likely Superman’s resurrection under Snyder was going to involve that somehow.

redcape
redcape
December 6, 2019 1:31 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

I believe that main difference is when it was applied in the two movies. In the JL we got it was like just put in the movie, bring Superman back and we’re out of here. Oh,..and don’t be concerned about Clark Kent walking the streets. We’ll ignore that as well. And that’s what we got!!!!!

Clark_Jo
Clark_Jo
December 5, 2019 6:44 pm

I like how this argument has gotten so petty.
No one with a brain is saying he didn’t put a cut together, the argument has always been if there was a fully CGI, Scored, Edited, Color Corrected finished film.
There is not.
You can show me a reel all day. All damn day, but that still doesn’t mean there’s a fully finished movie ready for release.
And the fact Snyder just dances around this topic kinda proves it.
This is about having an axe to grind. WB did him dirty, so he’s just causing as much grief as he can.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
December 5, 2019 7:18 pm
Reply to  Clark_Jo

Nobody with a brain is saying there is a fully finished cut. We knew that before the movie came out, on account of the fact that Whedon was brought on before the movie ever went to post. The argument has always been if there’s enough of the principal photography finished to put together a film.

Clark_Jo
Clark_Jo
December 6, 2019 9:20 am
Reply to  NeoRanger

Of course there his enough to put together a film. It may not all be right, but he shot a film.
Snyder presented a cut to WB in January of 2018. That was when the “unwatchable” reports came out.

redcape
redcape
December 5, 2019 8:27 pm
Reply to  Clark_Jo

First off, it’s not an argument. Second it’s not PETTY!

But it’s going to circle back to the same topic. And that’s how much is missing and is there anything in those reels that actually represents any thing that could actually be seen. But I do agree with you regarding Snyder dancing around this. I mean, he would certainly know.

Marnoman
Marnoman
December 6, 2019 3:36 am

…and at this point, I couldn’t be less interested.

redcape
redcape
December 6, 2019 1:23 pm
Reply to  Marnoman

Terrific..so from here on out you’ll have nothing to say about it as well!!