Zack Snyder shared a black and white picture via his Vero social media account which shows Diane Lane as Martha Kent and Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent holding signs with the number/year “1992”.
The photo does not appear to be from “Man of Steel”, as the clothes the pair are wearing did not appear in that film.
There’s speculation that the costumes may indeed be from the upcoming “Justice League” movie, with the pair possibly appearing in a flashback sequence that took place when the Kents first found Clark as a baby.
The date could be Zack Snyder’s inside nod to the “Death of Superman” story, which was published by DC Comics in 1992.
Source: Heroic Hollywood
This version of Johnathan and Martha really suffers from the dialog they’ve been given.
It’s a lot more than just dialogue.
Jonathan’s direction is horribly sporadic.
He’s kind of one of the worst characters in the DCEU.
The characterization of Johnathan and Martha Kent is so very, very wrong. Johnathan tells Clark he should have let a bus full of CHILDREN die? Really?? When the whole reboot of Superman began, I hoped they’d resist the temptation to go “The Death of Superman” route, since you would need to build a cinematic universe with some history in order for the story to have impact. Naturally, they went the fan-pandering route and made a beeline straight for one of the weakest story lines in the Superman mythos. I wish they’d just cut their losses and reboot Superman again –… Read more »
That’s part of what I meant with the dialog. Adjusting “maybe” to “I don’t know” I think would have at least made it more clear to the audience that in that particular moment he’s really torn between his desire to protect Clark and knowing that saving lives was the right thing to do which is what I suspect they were trying to get across and it comes off terribly. And yeah Death/Return really needs build up and time to have really followed Superman a while prior to it. Rushing it is a little like trying to do the Best of… Read more »
My problem is with the JL2 now on some kind of hold, the limited amount of time were going to see Superman IS going to be limited. And there doesn’t appear to be any kind of movement towards the next step after JL. Whether it’s a solo or continuation of the JL. Never the less how Clark is going to be brought back (if he’s going to), is really up in the air.
Well I don’t think the traditional Clark Kent will be brought back. I mean there won’t be time in JL to establish it unless it’s just some silly unearned reason that makes no sense and unearned (which isn’t past Zack Snyder). If there isn’t a dumb reason he’s back in JL then when? The next Superman movie can’t be any sooner than 2019, so that’s 3 years after he died. So how do you bring a guy back 3 years later? You don’t, it’s as simple as that. Zack Snyder wanted Superman to be a god, a divine being that… Read more »
Agreed on much of this. There are two youtube videos that describe the problems pretty well: “Man Of Steel Redux” and “Batman V Superman: A Beautiful Lie”. “The People Vs. Clark Kent” is pretty good too. Regardless, I hope WB/DC is getting their act together. Because, from what I can tell… they have one more movie before they run out of “the first time ever” events to bank on (“first Batman and Superman”, “first Justice League” etc). If these aren’t fixed after that… I’d almost bet money that the next DCEU movie would make “TMNT2:OTS” kinda money. And they’ll have… Read more »
“especially not the cast, who (as I say all the time) have been excellent, even against all odds”
That reminds me of what I said about BvS the other day, that it’s like starting a relationship with a beautiful woman only to realize she has a drug problem and a racist. So you’re left saying “I want to love you, you’re a beautiful person on the outside, but on the inside you’re a horrible person, so I can’t.”
Yep, pretty much.
Goyer is legendarily bad at writing dialogue. I can rewrite the entirety of Man of Steel without making a single change to the story, leave all the unnecessary scenes in and fix nothing else and it will still be a better movie, which will also allow the actors to get more mileage out of the script.
Well there is the Flash, if all else fails he can just run back in time and save his mother then BOOM potentially awesome movie if done right with a reboot that isn’t a reboot.
Be interesting if they do. I personally liked the DCEU Kents. They didn’t seem all too different to me. From my perspective, like the comics, they kept Clark’s nature underwraps the way they should; by encouraging him to lie to everyone that he’s just like them and to not even tell his friends. To hide who he is in plain sight despite still having the hope and faith that one day that he will be accepted for who he is in his entirety. I think the only difference is that in the DCEU, they don’t sugarcoat their wisdom with comforting… Read more »
In regards to the characterization of the Kents, for me it harkens back to something I’ve always thought and that is that David Goyer, while gifted at telling an overall story, stumbles with execution and dialogue/screenplay writing abilities. It was pretty clear to me in MOS what kind of a Story he was going for and how he wanted to present the characters, but it was poorly executed in terms of dialogue and to an extent direction. I agree with Mattcomics who said that an ‘I don’t know’ would have worked much better in displaying Jonathan’s concern for his son… Read more »
Maybe they’ll finally give Jonathan a scene that can finally redeem him a little bit as his characterization has left much to be desired thus far. Also, if this is from JL, why put it out there? Why not leave some surprises for the movie? BvS was a joke with how much the trailers showed, and how much they gave away. The worst offense being releasing that photo of Batman overlooking Darkseid’s omega symbol. Absolutely zero reason for that image to have been released before the film.
Yeah, they pretty much gave away the ENTIRE plot for BvS in the trailers.
A flashback to Clark being found by the Kents played against Superman being revived would be really effective. Hope it happens.
At this point, I couldn’t care less about another Kent flashback. As far as I am concerned, they messed up big time with the Kents and the flashbacks in Man Of Steel. Everyone always seemed to be bothered about the fact that Superman killed Zod at the end of Man Of Steel. As much as I would have preferred a better ending, even Lois Lane kills a few Kryptonians from what you can tell in the film. No. For me, the MASSIVE problem I seen was Superman killing Jonathon Kent. Ok, not exactly killing him, but completely letting his father… Read more »
Though ‘Quest for Peace’ is considered terrible by most, there is no denying that Christopher Reeve continued to just nail the part. That’s the one thing that they got completey right and makes the movie worth watching. I just love the speech he gives at the end because it’s just so completely Superman. ‘I just wish you could all see the Earth the way that I see it. Because when you really look at it, it’s just one world.’ A little cheesy, sure, but that is part of Supermans charm and why I love him. Still better than any line… Read more »
He didn’t want to play that role any more. But Cannon films made a deal with him that they would guarantee him roles in other movies if he reprized being Superman. The movie did poorly because Cannon films had no proper budget to make a Superman movie. So they made it anyway and it looked like a low budget movie. STM 1 and 2 set a bar. The two other films lowered that. You can’t make a cheap or camp Superman movie and expect it to be an over overwhelming success. They proved that twice.
Totally agree.
Well lets see here. Some good thoughts. I also did not care for JK death. BUT…at that time of the movie there was no Superman. He wasn’t even established. It was his father’s decision to die. If fact it was hardly a Superman movie at all. Only once during MOS was he was referred to as Superman. But still, even in BvS has he hasn’t been called Superman to his face. So on the outside of this I’m not sure if were actually watching a fully developed Superman at all. His costume says Superman but the movies,(both of them), take… Read more »
WB made 6.1 billion dollars off of DC alone this year, Superman will get another movie