“Supergirl” Episode Review – S04E09 “Elseworlds”

Elseworlds

Superman Homepage writer Michael Bailey reviews episodes from the “Supergirl” TV series, airing on The CW.

Check out his review of the ninth episode of Season 4 in which Supergirl (Melissa Benoist), The Flash (guest star Grant Gustin), Green Arrow (guest star Stephen Amell) and Superman (guest star Tyler Hoechlin) engage in the battle of their lives.

Originally Aired: December 11, 2018

WRITTEN BY: Derek Simon and Robert L. Rovner
DIRECTED BY: Jesse Warn

REGULAR CAST:
Melissa Benoist (Kara/Supergirl)
Chyler Leigh (Alex Danvers)
David Harewood (J’onn Jones)
Mechad Brooks (Jimmy Olsen)
Jesse Rath (Brainiac 5)

GUEST STARS:
Stephen Amell (Oliver Queen/Barry Allen/Green Arrow/Flash)
Grant Gustin (Barry Allen/Oliver Queen/Flash/Green Arrow)
Candace Patton (Iris West-Allen)
Danielle Panabaker (Caitlin Snow/Killer Frost)
Carlos Valdes (Cisco Ramon/Vibe)
Tyler Hoechlin (Clark Kent/Superman)
Elizabeth Tulloch (Lois Lane)
LaMonica Garrett (Monitor)
Jeremy Davies (Dr. John Deegan)

4Rating – 4 (out of 5): At the top, I want to say that I enjoyed this episode as a whole and enjoyed this crossover as a whole. This final chapter has some problematic elements that took it down a notch and now that I am past the euphoria of watching the episodes I think I can put those elements into words.

Big picture observation before I get into that; these CW superhero crossover episodes have done a great job of representing the different type of crossovers we get in the comics.

The first one in 2014 was your basic two-parter taking place in the pages of two heroes’ books.

In 2015 we got the crossover that is there to introduce a new super-team and it just doesn’t stick the landing.

In 2016 we got the big world threatening/alien invasion crossover.

In 2017 it was the CRISIS ON EARTH-(FILL IN THE BLANK) type of affair.

So, what is this year’s crossover?

Apparently, this is the crossover that sets up another crossover, crossover.

Also known as The Geoff Johns.

In general this storyline ended on a satisfactory note. There were some more fun alternate reality gags that worked for me. Cisco as a crime boss was hysterical and I liked the idea of James Olsen being Superman’s Worst Pal. This was all window dressing, though. The emotional core of the story was Oliver being set up as the hero that is going to die in CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS…

…Um…

…I mean the story of Oliver realizing the value of the type of heroes that Supergirl and Flash are. The fact that he was the one to get into The Monitor’s face was great and I liked that while there were other heroes in this story the focus was on the stars of the series the crossover took place in. Supergirl and Flash get to make the big play that ultimately saves the day while Oliver gets to be the hero that facilitates that save. The themes of self-realization and friendship come full circle and it made for good television. I also liked that they used the fact that Supergirl and Flash died during CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS to play with the emotions of the viewers that are familiar with that story. I especially liked seeing the idea of a hero being a symbol of hope and not being a scowling jerk all the time get played up, though maybe that was laid on a bit thick in the case of Supergirl

Which brings us to the big problem I had with this episode; some of the decisions made regarding Superman.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have liked the Superman and Clark Kent that the SUPERGIRL series has given us. The first two episodes of Season 2 were amazing and gave me just about everything that the film side of the company had not. I keep mentioning this, but the version of Clark and Superman that the writers and the producers and Tyler Hoechlin crafted is very close to the version of Clark and Superman that exists in my head. I like that Clark is a little klutzy but willing to go for the story. I like that his Superman is so at comfortable with who he is and is also aware of how others perceive him leading to him always trying to make people feel at ease around him. When Hoechlin is in costume he walks with purpose and seems confident. He also was able to be a little funny and did things like wink at a family he just saved. It all feels right to me.

At the end of Season 2 Superman was mind controlled by Teri Hatcher and forced to fight Supergirl. Supergirl won the fight and it was stated that Supergirl might be stronger than Superman. Thankfully Superman fandom is full of wonderfully understanding people that took this in the spirit it was intended and did not have serious problems with it.

Wait. That didn’t happen at all.

The opposite happened. There was a very vocal group that did have serious problems with the show saying Supergirl was stronger than Superman and even as I type that it feels like I am in grade school arguing on the playground. I didn’t care for the line because I thought it was unnecessary, but the show was doing so much right that I didn’t let it drag me down.

This (finally) brings me to the final chapter of the Elseworlds crossover and how they got as much wrong with Superman as they got right.

Before I dig into this, I want to say that none of my problems fall on the shoulders of Tyler Hoechlin. I dug the black costume and he did a superb job playing both Superman and the Deegan Superman. He looked like he was having a great time being “evil” Superman and he took the material given to him and performed it admirably.

It’s the material that is my problem. First, Barry and Ollie get Superman and bring him to their Earth to fight Deegan. Deegan proceeds to wipe the floor (and sky) with him. I’m not saying that Deegan should have lost the fight because on a dramatic level the fight needed to end with Deegan escaping, but it could have been more evenly matched. Having Superman get taken down as hard as he was taken down reminded me of the early episode of the JUSTICE LEAGUE animated series where Superman would routinely get knocked around by the threat of the day to show how powerful said threat was. This isn’t necessary. There are other ways to defeat Superman. It also undercut the entrance he made because it’s all well and good to show up and look like you’re there to handle the situation but when you get taken down hard it makes it a bit less awesome.

Then there was the scene where Barry and Kara explain their plan to slow down time. The SUPERMAN THE MOVIE approach to time travel was always one of my problems with an otherwise perfect film, so I really didn’t want to see it here but that’s not the issue. The issue is the doubt Superman expresses at the chances of them succeeding. I get that he’s concerned about his cousin. That’s fine. I also get that Superman can’t be the one to ultimately save the day because it’s not his show. That’s also fine. I just think that this Superman is better than feeling like they’re going to fail. I expected more from him and that is on the writers and the show runners. Superman looked weaker to make three other characters look stronger and it was unnecessary.

Speaking of unnecessary, the scene in Smallville was almost perfect except for the gratuitous dialogue of Clark telling Kara how awesome she was and how much better than she is than he is. Again, I’m the guy that was cool with Superman saying it back in Season 2 but here it felt pointless. There would have been nothing wrong with Clark telling Kara that Lois is expecting and that while they’re spending the pregnancy in a place where the baby has a better chance of not killing the mother Kara is more than capable of being the hero of Earth. Instead the dialogue just beat us over the head with how great Kara is.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Kara. I love that she has her own show. I did not want Superman to show her up, but this was a bridge too far.

Having written all of that I am both shocked and impressed that they not only revealed that Lois is pregnant but also showed us the proposal in the Fortress. I will admit that I groaned a bit at him crushing a charcoal briquette (which is composed of bits of charcoal, coal, starch, sawdust and sodium nitrate) into a diamond it was still really sweet. I shouldn’t be too surprised at the idea of a pre-wedding Lois and Clark having a kid after the events of SUPERMAN RETURNS but it was still a bold move. The whole ending sequence went a long way to make me feel better about the times the story treated Superman poorly.

I really like Tyler and Tulloch as Clark and Lois. They have great chemistry and while I am not holding my breath for a series, I’ll still burn a candle every night until we get one.

Which brings us the final moments of the episode. No lie; I actually said the words, “Worlds will live. Worlds will die. And the universe will never be the same,” along with the Psycho Pirate as he spoke them to Deegan, who now looks like Emperor Palpatine at the end of REVENGE OF THE SITH. This is huge. The fact that they are even attempting this blows my mind and I am full of questions. Those question are mainly logistical in nature (Will it be a three parter like this one? Will it involve LEGENDS OF TOMORROW? Will it be one week or a larger crossover between all of the shows that takes weeks to tell? Will this get rid of the multiverse that exists between the shows? Is Ollie going to die?) but I am mainly just jazzed that I live in a world where this is happening. When I was a teenager, I really wanted to see some version of CRISIS brought to life but thought it would never happen.

Now it is. And I am happy.

Thus endeth the crossover for this year. It is easily the best one they’ve done. It was ambitious in scope and except for a problem here and there I love it. The best part was watching fellow fans and friends on social media geeking out together and just loving what we were seeing. I think that’s why I’ve gone so easy on these episodes. They were fun. I had fun watching them. The actors all looked like they were having fun and, in this day and age with things being the way they are, having fun is a welcome respite.

And I got to see Lois and Clark on screen with Kara.

I can’t wait to watch it again.

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MattComics
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MattComics

Michael I gotta say you pretty much echo all my sentiments on this one and honestly I feel the need to thank you because I was trying to articulate my feelings about the episode and having a really rough time trying to figure out how say it without coming across more negative than I really intended. Like you I was able to roll with the end of Season 2. I even felt that Clark’s line about not knowing if he could make the same choice with Lois that she did with Mon-El made sense to me from his characters point… Read more »

BMoore25
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I agree with you 100% on the portrayal of Superman in the final 30 minutes of this crossover. And really for me it boils down to the fact that DC comics always seems to use Superman as a showcase floor,

“come watch how great whatever superhero is as he out classes Superman in every facet imaginable.” It’s freaking sickening and to see it brought over into the the shows now is breaking of the camels back….other than that the 3 episodes were great

afriend
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afriend

Couple thoughts: -Quite frequently when an actor who plays a believably good character gets the chance to play their evil counterpart, they tend to camp it up to the point that they have no menace at all. Serious props to Tyler Hoechlin for not doing that. He was clearly having fun, but he didn’t take it too far. -I get why Superman didn’t just wipe the floor with Deegan Superman: magic. I personally don’t like magic in Superman stories, but it is an established weakness, so there you go. -re: “Stronger”: *angry sigh* It’s clunky writing to say the least.… Read more »

MattComics
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MattComics

I think they could have let Superman have a good showing in the fight regardless of magic and still successfully sold Super-Deegan as a threat.

afriend
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afriend

They could have, but then somewhere along the line the story got Geoff Johns’d.

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

I don’t understand. What do you mean by the story got Geoff Johns’d? Could you please explain it to me?

afriend
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afriend

SPOILERS In my (shamelessly biased) opinion, Geoff Johns as a writer has a tendency to start his story arcs and events very strongly. His run on Teen Titans beginning back in 2003 (I suddenly feel old), Infinite Crisis, Last Son, Absolute Justice… All have really great starts; they nail the characters, the stakes are sufficiently high, intriguing ideas are brought to the front (to his credit, Geoff Johns took the Kon-El version of Superboy from being a of a joke and fleshed him out to being my second favorite Super Family character), and then either the story runs out of… Read more »

redcape
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redcape

It was good. Was a bit disappointed that John Wesley Shipp didn’t really do anything. And the Batwoman angle was done in a way that made sense as much as possible. I found the addition of Superman to be once again a token to the team. As with the other cross over’s they make sure to not give any one too much of a power advantage over the other. Everybody gets knocked around at some time. I found the pregnant Lois and the marriage proposal to be ridiculous. Remember the kid in Superman Returns that was pounded into oblivion? About… Read more »

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

Shipp’s Flash’s “Death” scene, bothered me as well redcape. Did they kill him off? They didn’t explain what happened to him. It was just poof he’s gone. I mean is that it for John’s Flash?

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

After much thought on the crossover finale, here is my review. I won’t get into to much thought over the Oliver and Barry part of this review since I really want to focus more on the Superman, Lois, and Supergirl parts of the episode. That being said, here it is. I first want to talk about Barry and Oliver and the ending of their role reversal. I wasn’t happy about how they needed to change their roles for the whole plot. I felt that it really had no purpose in this crossover. I understand that it was a side effect… Read more »

gr8one
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Come on, the fortress scene was a bit much. Crushing a charcoal brickett into a diamond that is perfectly sized for the ring he had. In no possible way would he be able to turn BBQ Charcoal into diamond. At least Superman 3 tried a little harder and have him use an actual piece of coal. Middle school science. And why the heck would he be grilling in his super suit if they’re having a romantic dinner. (I’m not disagreeing on anything else you said except this one scene stretched the suspension of belief too far. I’m already accepting a… Read more »

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

I think it’s just a tipping of the hat for the Reeve Superman when comes to the coal crashing diamond in the hand scene. The science maybe inaccurate for that scene, but I thought it was nice of them to make that little reference to Superman 3.

Randall
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Randall

You and I share the same position when it came to the Kara v Clark strength thing. After the season 2 ending, i didn’t really care. It was a comment that wasn’t needed, sure, but I feel it got a lot more vitriol than it deserved. That said, the ending of this one was way worse and there I start getting annoyed, then moving to full on angry at the end. 1) There’s zero need to really drive home to Kara that she’s stronger. What good does that knowledge have anyway? Myself, I’m stronger than my cousin, does that mean… Read more »

MattComics
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MattComics

It makes sense to me that Clark would have some desire for having his attention undivided while caring for Lois while she’s pregnant but all that stuff about being afraid and “world doesn’t need Superman” was needless and diminishing. I can see him saying something more along the lines of “What I would want to do is take this time to be completely there for Lois and I feel like I could do that because the Earth has you.” I’m hazy on what actually happened to 90’s Flash. I thought it looked like the Monitor just breeched him back to… Read more »

afriend
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afriend

I’ve come to prefer John Wesley Shipp as Jay Garrick (the best Flash playing the best Flash), and hopefully he’ll turn up as JG in the next crossover (I don’t make a habit of watching the Flash, so don’t ruin my imagination with what’s actually happening on the show). But I’ve heard him say over the years that he absolutely hates the the Flash suit he wore back in the old series, so maybe that’s all they could talk him into.

Randall
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Randall

I love John as Jay and it’s a perfect evolution of casting. And I heard the same thing and I even remember when Flash debuted everyone was hounding him if he was going to put on the suit again and he was emphatically saying “not a chance.” so they must’ve really strong armed him to get into the suit.

And it was both great and awful to see that the old suit looked soooooo much better than the current suit Grant is wearing hhahah

MattComics
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MattComics

Man, I wanted to like Grant’s new suit since they were taking an honest stab at being comic accurate but yeah. Last years is probably my favorite. Kind of a nice middle ground between doing the whole leather thing while letting him have much better lines and colors. Also prefer the boot tops on that one.

Really, Oliver would have been better off having the body swap happen with that Season 4 suit to.

Randall
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The suit, for the most part, is ok… but it’s the cowl that is just baaaaad. And I actually didn’t like last years suit at first. It looked too clunky in the shoulder/chest area. I think they did something throughout the season to fix it or it just grew on me to look better. but this one… we’re 50% through the season and he still looks weird. I think the neck line needs to be brought up to under the jaw and/or the “helmet” part of the cowl needs to either be eliminated or supported with a chin strap like… Read more »

MattComics
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MattComics

Something about the new cowl also brings his ear bolts to the front instead of the sides and there’s that weird thing hanging off the back of the helment part. I agree with you that closing up the neck area closer to his jaw would help and if for some reason they can’t do that then yeah go back to the New 52 chinder-wear. For the suit I don’t like those weird pink looking sections around the neck. I also don’t like the lightning bolts around his wrists being so thin and again I prefer the boot-top bolts of the… Read more »

redcape
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redcape

He didn’t like the suit because of what it was made out of. It had a tendency to dehydrate him. He would sweat a lot while wearing it. That was the biggest issue!

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

I agree with you MattComics on “ the world doesn’t need Superman” quote. It would have been better for him to have said “ Lois and I have to leave Earth and stay in Argo city for a while, until the baby is born. Earth will be safe in your protection Kara.” That way he’s not diminishing his own worth as Earth’s greatest hero but at the same time acknowledging his cousin’s own worth as a hero. As much as I’m a huge fan of this version of Superman, I can’t dismiss any big mistakes when it comes to Superman’s… Read more »

MattComics
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MattComics

Hey Spidey, I don’t want to stop supporting this version of Superman either but we’ll see if the CW can get it together. They’ve created a very likable Superman so if they can let go of needing to downplay him when he’s around other heroes they’ll really have something.

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

What you say is true MattComics

Randall
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Randall

It wasn’t that I was “let down” so much as felt betrayed. They did SO much right in the first episode with him that turning like this at the end felt like being given a gift and then have it taken away for no good reason. Clearly, they know what they’re doing with Superman as a character when they don’t need to explain an extended disappearance or portray why he can’t be the one to single-handedly “save the day.” So if they can get past those hurdles, we’d be fine. And they’re not huge hurdles either. It just takes a… Read more »

MattComics
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MattComics

Betrayed is kind of a good word for it. Things seemed to be going along just fine in that first ep. I don’t know how they can nail down Superman’s personality so well and simultaneously be so afraid of letting him shine around the other heroes.

Randall
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Randall

Having a desire, absolutely, but leaving due to “fear” is what set me off. And yup, I fully agree with you, a different phrasing could have easily accomplished the same goal without making him look bad. And if 90s Flash is alive, it’s a little better, but even if he is, the way it was handled was REALLY bad. There wasn’t even a reaction from the other characters beyond a mild grimace. Maybe there was a line cut that explained everything, but what we got was just confusing. I loved that Batwoman was there, but beyond landing on the van,… Read more »

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

Yeah, I just can’t believe that they forgot about 90’s Flash either. I mean, they just forgot about him, or that they just didn’t care.

redcape
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redcape

I think they just gave JohnWS’s Flash a nod from the past, that’s all.

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

It would have been nice to have seen John’s flash at the end. And maybe he lost his powers at the end of this event, and he would have said something like this to the other heroes “ My powers are completely gone. I lost them during this fight with the monitor. I guess the protection of the multiverse is in your hands now.” It would have been better end of John’s flash than what we got.
Of course this just my opinion. I don’t know. Maybe they have something planned for him later on down the road.

MattComics
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MattComics

Problem is if you have 90’s Flash standing side by side with the other heroes as they are about to enter a confrontation you’re teasing the idea of something much more than a nod, you’re setting up the idea that he’s going to be a participant in the action so when he gets blipped out it can’t help but feel like a let down. If all they wanted to do was a nod they would have been better off leaving it at his appearance in the teaser and then the whole thing with him trying to warn them from the… Read more »

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

Speaking of the breach, did they explain how the original Flash was able to breach? If they did, I don’t remember it.

MattComics
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MattComics

It really seemed like he was able to breech under his own power somehow. Maybe he had a version of the Cosmic Treadmill?

redcape
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One other point regarding Supeman’s appearance on Supergirl.(not going to like it)…..TylerH is being paid to do a job. His job is to act accordingly while being directed within the story lines. It should be quite obvious to everyone that they’re(CW), manipulating his role as Superman into a reduced level that comes across as him being underneath or less than Supergirl. From what he does, how he act’s and what he says, it’s all been carefully planed out so he never comes across as being “on top of” in any way over Supergirl. This is the Hollywood direction as of… Read more »

Iluvsuperman88
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Iluvsuperman88

Well said Bailey. There is nothing wrong with Supergirl being stronger then Superman. My fandom for Superman is strong enough that Supergirl being stronger then Superman will not make me love Superman any less. I get that that is Supergirl’s show and for sure don’t want Superman to outshine Supergirl b/c it’s not a Superman show its hers but I just have a problem with the way they handle Superman. I loved the first episode Tyler’s Superman on Supergirl. I really loved the DEO scene where Superman entered the DEO and everyone just stopped to admire him. I felt that… Read more »

MattComics
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MattComics

lluvsuperman88, I really wish it wasn’t a competition either. I like them both and want to enjoy them both.

Iluvsuperman88
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Iluvsuperman88

I know. And I understand that Supergirl should outshine superman because it’s not a Superman show. I mean quit the competition and focus on what makes them both great heroes. Supergirl doesn’t need to make Superman look weak for Supergirl to shine. She shines already. That’s my only problem. I think they will find a better balance later on. They have some good writers.

redcape
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redcape

Nothing wrong with Supergirl being stronger than Superman?? Yes maybe if he was wearing a kryptonite necklace. Other than that it’s a “token” to insinuate she is. They’ve gone out of their way to INVENT and continue on with this ridiculous concept. But you make a very valid point about why they felt is was necessary in the first place to establish rubbish, that doesn’t make a bit of sense or was even necessary. I for one don’t want him on this show again if that’s the angle(insult), that their going to continue to throw in our faces. That along… Read more »

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

I hope that they listen too Iluvsuperman88.

NeoRanger
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NeoRanger

Hey guys, did you know that Supergirl is better than Superman? Supergirl is better than Superman. If you didn’t know that Supergirl is better than Superman, then tune in to The CW’s “Supergirl”, where Supergirl will tell you that Supergirl is better than Superman.

Does mommy love little Kara already? She’s trying so hard. Jesus Christ, this show.

Other than that, it was what I expect from a modern CW show; TV special effects, broken up by sappy scenes that need to pass for character development and then some more special effects.

The Monitor was pretty cool, though. Mostly.

Iluvsuperman88
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Iluvsuperman88

Yes she is but that doesn’t bother me at all. What bothers me is Their representation of superman. I honestly don’t care who is stronger than who That’s not even the point. The point is this show has made it into a competition when it shouldn’t be and go out of their way to just make superman in a way Look useless and he is not. Not asking for Superman to outshine her just have him do something to help out instead and not go out of the way to make sure everyone knows superman is not needed and that… Read more »

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

I don’t blame Tyler for the episode. It’s the writers fault. Tyler has no say in the what’s written in the script. And the role of Superman is a role that many actors would want to keep if they already have it. So he may not have liked what he had to say in the part. I’m giving Tyler the benefit of the doubt on this one. The writers on the other hand are clearly at faul for this ill treatment of Superman.

Iluvsuperman88
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Agreed. I think Tyler makes a great Superman. Its like the things that were missing in the Man of Steel Superman were found in Tyler. Confident but humble. A friend who just wants to help. Tyler nailed it with the Superman in black. We knew he was talented already but seeing him play a different version of Superman was fantastic and he knocked it out of the park. He just gets it and I am a huge fan of that superman.

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Agreed. The actor can only do so much with the lines he’s given and what the director wants. It the same bane that has been going on with Cavill’s Superman.

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

You have a point. I admit that I’m not a fan of the Cavill version of Superman, but I do think that it’s the fault of the writer. If they change the writer for a future Superman film, then I might feel differently about his version. I’m a fair person. I’m willing to give Cavill another chance, provided that the script is written by someone who has no ties to the previous 3 Cavill Superman films of course.

MattComics
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MattComics

The CW seems to want to do right by their female characters and I don’t blame them. I can even understand that it’s a bit of a tightrope sometimes. If they under-sell Kara some will think they aren’t doing enough. If they over-sell her then some get mad. Then sadly, there are some who are always angry that a girl is shown being effective at doing anything at all. I think CW just needs to make better choices and stop over-compensating for the possibility of Superman over-shadowing anyone, be it Kara or any other hero. Whether it be because of… Read more »

NeoRanger
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I don’t want to get into the politics of it, but they’re not doing “right” so much as they’re throwing in off-hand lines to pretend they’re doing “right” by some arbitrary social standard. Remember, in the Flash episode they threw in a pay gap joke and I’d like to see the reality in which senior, Pulitzer Prize-winning Lois Lane would be paid less than newer, constantly absentee Clark in 2018 and Perry White wouldn’t be up to his neck in lawsuits. “Supergirl” has no reason to take shots at Superman. It doesn’t take shots at the Flash or Green Arrow… Read more »

Iluvsuperman88
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Iluvsuperman88

I don’t understand why it bothers some that a girl shows up a man. Lol! I personally do not care who is stronger than who. What I care about is watching superman and supergirl working together to save the day. I have no problem with Supergirl saving the day. I just wish they would stop the power and ability competition.

redcape
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redcape

No problem with what your saying. However they went out of their way to make sure that this angle of, power and ability, was thoroughly and officially rubbed in our faces. And they’re doing it at the expense of what the character of Superman represents or what he’s supposed to represent. But this is not an isolated occurrence on this show or on this TV channel. The entire entertainment industry has bent over to this token-izing of female roles. There’s not one show on TV or in most major movies, that doesn’t have the male roll ending up with him… Read more »

redcape
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redcape

Well…I can’t edit my laughable mistakes. But…”super-mam”. NO……MAN!!

NeoRanger
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NeoRanger

You’re getting too hang-up on the “stronger” part. It wasn’t even meant literally in this episode (as in, Clark wasn’t talking about physical strength). The problem everyone has is that the show is suffering from a serious inferiority complex and it feels the need to take pot-shots at Superman to empower Supergirl. Tiny issue with this, though: this isn’t empowering, especially when as a show, Supergirl has been consistently leeching off of Superman mythos since the start. This is some “mean girl” crap and this show should be better than this.

Spidey2878
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Spidey2878

I know that it’s not Friday anymore and that I didn’t give people positive votes on Friday, so I’m giving them now. Happy late weekend everyone. Sorry that I’m late with these positive votes for all of you. Everyone gets a thumbs up today. Even if I don’t agree with a comment, it will still get a positive vote because everyone should feel good on the weekend.