Movie Review – “Justice League”

On Thursday afternoon in Australia I sat in the theatre to watch the “Justice League” movie with a mixture of excitement and trepidation. Would this movie be everything I was hoping for?

Without giving any spoilers away, I can say without any hesitation that, as a Superman fan, this film made me extremely happy.

This feels more like a Superman movie than “Batman v Superman” did. The Man of Steel is central to this movie even when he’s not around. He’s the inspiration, the motivation, the savior, the hope. He literally and figuratively saves this movie.

This isn’t a perfect film by any stretch of the imagination. It’s slow in parts, and struggles at times by feeling somewhat repetitive. However, the other superheroes all get great moments, and The Flash almost steals the show. But they’re all equally as important as each other… until Superman returns. Even Wonder Woman pales in comparison to the Man of Steel.

I’m not sure if it’s in his contract or something, but Henry Cavill once again gets more shirtless time in this film. But once he’s back in the costume he’s never looked better. The colors are bright and vibrant. The blue is blue! Not black-blue, but blue.

This, not just the costume, but the whole thing… His actions. His personality. His humor. This is the Superman we’ve been waiting for!

And you don’t have to wait until the last quarter of the film.

But you should hang around for a mid credit scene and a post credit scene. They’re both Superman related. The final one comes right at the end of the credits. You need to be patient. But it’s worth it.

The musical score really fit the movie. Elfman has done a great job capturing the feel of the film. It’s a great blend of both current and classic themes. He marries them together nicely.

The CGI looked a bit rough in parts, but not enough to be distracting. Although I could kind of tell which scenes were filmed with Henry’s mustache. But unless you knew about the need for them to digitally remove it from some scenes you probably wouldn’t think anything of it. My wife didn’t notice anything.

All in all, “Justice League” is definitely a movie I’ll be watching again and again. So much to enjoy about it… especially as a Superman fan.

I’d rate it a solid 7/10.

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Kal L
Kal L
November 16, 2017 7:00 am

I’d rate it 8/10.
I just know that in the places it felt rough, it was most likely due to the mandated editing down to a 2 hour running time by WB for this theatrical cut. There is bound to be an extended bluray.

I can finally say this without spoiling for anyone, but JL is a great Superman film. From the opening shot, to the closing!

andramus
andramus
November 16, 2017 8:16 am

Unfortunately I won’t be seeing this until next Thursday with my grandfather so I probably won’t be spoiler free. I could go on my own but I prefer to go to movies with someone so I can talk about it after. I’ve been reading comments about this last minute reduced run time mandate but I haven’t read the original article/source so I don’t know how much truth there is to it. If true it’s incredibly annoying and apparently the same thing happened with BvS. I’ve read that the Ultimate Edition was pretty much the original theatrical cut and then at… Read more »

sundevil82
sundevil82
November 16, 2017 9:53 am
Reply to  andramus

The execs can’t get out of their own way. The problems with the franchise start at the top.

andramus
andramus
November 16, 2017 8:17 am

By the way. Who wrote this review?

Randarch
Randarch
November 16, 2017 9:15 am
Reply to  andramus

I’m guessing Steve wrote it.

LarGand
LarGand
November 16, 2017 9:24 am

Nice to see this – reviews that I’ve seen elsewhere have been mixed to hostile. I’ll be honest, Superman is my prime reason for seeing this, and the importance of its success to me is first and foremost as a precursor to (I really, really hope) future solo Superman movies with Henry in the lead. Fingers crossed …

redcape
redcape
November 17, 2017 6:59 pm
Reply to  LarGand

Reviews weren’t just hostile. There totally INCORRECT!

rotcev08
rotcev08
November 16, 2017 9:36 am

8/10 for me too. As a Superman fan I was pleasantly surprised! Loved the small details that connect it to BvS. One thing I would have to disagree with is the Elfman score. Didn’t really like it, and I really missed Zimmer’s MoS theme. Still I hope this signals more Superman films down the road!

andramus
andramus
November 16, 2017 10:07 am
Reply to  rotcev08

I think the Zimmer MoS soundtrack is underappreciated. People have funny attitudes towards music though. I read comments about the first Avenger’s movie saying it didn’t have an identifiable/memorable theme.

Personally I thought the Avengers theme was memorable. Like the MoS theme it played in the end credits of the movie and was played most recognizably when the Avengers first assembled in a circle in New York. On the other hand my brother doesn’t think it was very good. So everyone has different tastes.

Mark Newman
Mark Newman
November 16, 2017 10:21 am

Seeing it tonight and I’m very hyped! people who I typically share views on movies with (like Steve and some other reviewers) have all said it’s great with a few flaws. I hate that the RT score which includes alot of critics that have awful tastes is below fresh. I just hate that trolls just love to throw that score around.

Soulace
Soulace
November 16, 2017 10:32 am

I saw JL today in Australian Cinemas. Like the author here I sat with both trepidation and excitement in what was about to unveil before me. Alas JL for me was a dark Synder CGI romp with an obvious Whedon lighter fixer upper. Allow me to explain. Leading into this 2017 JL movie – for me the 2013 MoS was 7.5/10, 2016 Suicide Squad was 7/10 and 2016 BvS was 6/10 and Wonder Woman was 8.5/10. One of the things that struck me the most as MOST EVIDENT was the fact that Superman did not don the BLACK SUIT as… Read more »

supertorresmo
supertorresmo
November 16, 2017 11:10 am

Watched it Tuesday. I liked it very much. Felt it was just a little slow in the beginning.

I was thinking it was strange some scenes with CGI in Henry Cavil’s face, I thought it was because of the post production 3D, but reading this now I know it was the mustache!

8/10

DrAwkward
DrAwkward
November 16, 2017 1:02 pm

Thanks for the review. I need to see a few more times myself.

Man-O-Steal
Man-O-Steal
November 16, 2017 1:40 pm

I was lucky enough to go to the premiere on Monday and I LOVED the movie. The audience cheered in all the right places. And it was so much fun. I can’t believe the film is getting so much hate. The friend who took me to the premiere isn’t a superhero-movie fan, but still had fun watching it. … The film would have benefitted from the addition of about 20+ minutes, for character development. But blame the WB execs for screwing that up. Hopefully we’ll get an extended blu-ray release.

Kal-Ed
November 16, 2017 1:53 pm

Will definitely check it out on Saturday. A lot of my German friends here know I’m JL enthusiast and my guess they’ll be just as happy after I’ve bugged them long enough with the hype. Hehehehe.
I only hope that my gal won’t dump me for having a (secret eye) on Jason Momoa

suprdave71
suprdave71
November 16, 2017 3:05 pm

I’m trying to not read too much before we see it tonight… but I just had to read this review. More excited than ever to see it!

Seph1r0th
Seph1r0th
November 16, 2017 4:16 pm

I saw the movie at an advance screening and thought it was great. Any Superman fan will appreciate the fact that Superman is central to the plot and his presence is felt from beginning to end whether he’s on screen or not. This movie is primarily about bringing the heroes together and establishing the different corners of the DC universe and less about the a threat brought by the villain. The movie succeeds in doing this and makes every character likable in his/her own way. The constant hostility toward DC movies by critics is completely unfair and over the top… Read more »

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 16, 2017 5:29 pm
Reply to  Seph1r0th

The overwhelming majority of audience input I have seen has been ranging from positive to raving celebration. The reviews at RT are bloody hilarious; there are literally reviews that chastise the film for being too lighthearted and not deep enough. Like, seriously guys, what do you want? I actually defended critics with BvS, I understood their position, but this is getting irritating; particularly because I can break down the majority of Marvel movies that score consistently somewhere in the 90s and point out what a mess they are. Honestly, I was sold on the movie the moment I saw Dan… Read more »

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 3:03 am
Reply to  NeoRanger

Neo you are so correct. The JL has had critics move into caustic areas that so unwarranted. The fallout as U have said is probably the main concern. More to say tomorrow on the JL.

sonora
sonora
November 16, 2017 7:34 pm

I’d also rate the film 7/10. It’s not perfect, but I really liked the development of Superman and Henry Cavill’s performance.

ck069
ck069
November 16, 2017 11:57 pm

Mmmmmmmmm, took my son last night to watch it, he liked it, but I wasn’t sure if I did or didn’t. There are good bits, the removal of the Mo on Henry was visible and I wasn’t a fan, I guess they can only do so much with GCI. Flash,Auqaman and Wonder women where great, Cyborg not as bad as what I though he would be due to some fairly negative feedback through out the reviews. Batfleck was pretty good. Steppenwolf my least favourite, nothing really about Darksied either which I was surprised not to see. This seems to me… Read more »

afriend
afriend
November 17, 2017 12:41 am

It was better than Batman v Superman, but the film didn’t exactly win me over. The Flash acted more like the old Geoff Johns characterization of Bart Allen than what I think Barry Allen should be. And the action scenes look like video game cut scenes. Some good things though: Affleck and Irons are still very good in their respective roles, and the post-credits stinger is actually a decent hook.

manofsteel
manofsteel
November 17, 2017 3:32 am

I liked it. Superman was awesome. He is clearly the strongest and as fast as Barry. What’s not to like about that? I had issues with the editing and the cut scenes, so hopefully they do an extended cut. 7.5/10.

kryptoncorp74
kryptoncorp74
November 17, 2017 12:23 pm

je ne peux croire que vous ayez aimé ce superman…je l’ai trouvé arrogant,moqueur,il est aux antipodes de ce que j’attendais!ou est passé son humilité??

Chef_el74
Chef_el74
November 17, 2017 1:01 pm

Steve, your review was spot on, I left the theatre all smiles!

WCBrooks
WCBrooks
November 17, 2017 2:27 pm

A ton of fun! Definitely seeing it again (and the sequel is going to be seriously fierce). Flawed but fun. We finally got the Superman we deserved (and the start of a great Clark/Bruce friendship).

kal-bert
kal-bert
November 17, 2017 4:51 pm
Reply to  WCBrooks

But not the Superman we needed?
Just joking…Sorry, I couldn’t let that joke passs…

s-shield
s-shield
November 17, 2017 3:43 pm

I need Man of Steel 2 to be announced, like YESTERDAY, lol. Cavill finally fulfills his potential as Superman (as does Clark as Superman, funnily enough). As someone who grew up on the Bat-centric Timm-verse, and with the specter of DKR hanging over our heads, the level of sheer RESPECT Superman gets in this film, both by the characters and the storytellers, is unbelievable. Both his inspiration and his power levels, wow! Pure Superman Porn, lol. On the technical side, however, yeah… A lot of people’s complaints are warranted. AVENGERS is a better movie, just in terms of grading them… Read more »

rotcev08
rotcev08
November 18, 2017 8:12 pm
Reply to  s-shield

That’s exactly it – respect! I was so happy as well to see Supes get the respect he deserves. Moreso now that we have an awesome actor in Cavill. Please please please let us have an MOS 2

Randall1028
Randall1028
November 17, 2017 4:43 pm

I’m not sure where THIS Superman has been hiding since Man of Steel, but boy am I glad he’s been found!! I have never left a theater as angry as I did after BvS with so much ruined by the characterization of Batman and Superman and mostly the overall feel that Superman was “bothered” by saving people. Now it looks like that’s all been ret-conned and I couldn’t be happier about it. He smiles, he even laughs, he also has some real cheesey dialogue and I loved every second of it. Overall, I really really liked the movie with a… Read more »

sundevil82
sundevil82
November 17, 2017 4:50 pm

I saw it last night and I’m not sure how I feel about it to be completely honest. I mean I enjoyed it, but… I’m actually walking in to my second viewing right now and will give my final thoughts after. Initial thoughts from last night were that they nailed most of the characters. Movie felt rushed and things were missing. Complete tone shift from mos and BvS to this. (Sometimes that really worked and sometimes it really didn’t) Villain was weak (but I think it was intentional and necessary. Why waste darkseid on a movie where you have to… Read more »

kal-bert
kal-bert
November 17, 2017 4:56 pm

Unfortunately economy won’t allow me to watch it at the cinema. And I refuse to use other not-so-much-legal ways. At least while it has good reviews. So for the people that still haven’t watched it…I hope you enjoy it as much as hoped to enjoy it. No. Much more.

car2nst
car2nst
November 18, 2017 11:24 am
Reply to  kal-bert

I agree with you. The economy plays into it. Would this make more money in the summer when school is out or during the winter when people are spending/saving for the holiday season? I missed Thor due to some economical hardships but save some for JL. So I understand your POV

kal-bert
kal-bert
November 18, 2017 2:45 pm
Reply to  car2nst

I’ll watch it this Sunday! Yeah! The greatest 5 friends in the world had pre-ordered 6 tickets so we’ll watch it tomorrow. They kept me from knowing until they told me this afternoon.

redcape
redcape
November 17, 2017 7:02 pm

I just saw it and I will have more to say tomorrow. But I will say that the negative reviews that we’ve read are ALL WRONG!

sundevil82
sundevil82
November 17, 2017 7:14 pm
Reply to  redcape

I’ve been curious to hear what your thoughts were going to be regarding how they did Superman!

Kal L
Kal L
November 17, 2017 7:37 pm

Just making sure… Did everyone stay to the end of the credits? There was a pretty bad @$$ scene that sets up JL 2!

rocketdave
rocketdave
November 17, 2017 10:48 pm

Okay, first off, I had no idea Henry Cavill had a mustache that needed to be digitally removed. Weird. Anyway, to cut to the chase, I think seven out of ten seems fair. It was entertaining, but it maybe felt a bit more perfunctory than I was expecting. That’s quite possibly due to the reduced running time. I look forward to seeing the inevitable extended cut. I personally enjoyed this more than Avengers, but I’m hardly objective, having more affinity for the DC heroes. I kind of felt about Justice League the movie the way I felt about the first… Read more »

sundevil82
sundevil82
November 18, 2017 12:45 am
Reply to  rocketdave

Lol she did that in MOS too.

rocketdave
rocketdave
November 18, 2017 1:32 am
Reply to  sundevil82

I know! It’s almost a running gag at this point.

matt4802
matt4802
November 18, 2017 5:11 am

I guess many of you here are probably scanning these reviews after having seen the movie, but if you haven’t seen it yet I should warn of real SPOILERS ahead to anyone reading on from here! If you are going to see the movie, I have a piece of advice for you … stay! Stay for the post credit scene and stay for the post-post credit scene. About 45% of the audience had cleared the cinema during the credits and will have no idea of the tantalizing hint left like a trail of breadcrumbs!! So, my thoughts for what they… Read more »

MattComics
MattComics
November 18, 2017 10:46 am

They’ll need to come up with something for that but I honestly wouldn’t even care if they just ignored it if it meant having Clark Kent back and as a reporter. I don’t want him to have to be Bob Smith or whatever.

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 1:06 pm

Let’s discuss the movie reviews first. Seems like a lot of the reviews were personal against Zack. A great deal of the reviews weren’t just pointing out “things”, they were trashing everything. One of the worst reviews I read came out Friday. It was from The Associated Press. You’d find it in the A+E section of your news paper. Or you can find it in the mercurynews.com under entertainment. It’s about as nasty as you’ll read. Penned by a women named Lindsey Bahr. Of course the only good thing about the movie according to her was Wonder Women. After that… Read more »

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 1:30 pm

Now on the the Justice League. I’m going to break down some of the reviewers dislikes. Horrible CGI. Where was it? I didn’t see it! If the JL had horrible CGI then ALL superhero movies must have horrible CGI. Steppenwolf, an unfamiliar character. Well yea, lets just use the same Luthor theme again and again. The plot all over the place and hard to follow. Unless you were staring at your cell phone for two hours or just can’t stand superhero movies, it was explained well and obvious. Henry’s face. Well, we all know the deal there. But I wonder… Read more »

Kal L
Kal L
November 18, 2017 8:01 pm
Reply to  redcape

I feel like most of these “critics and reviewers” went into the movie with the idea of already hating it. And no matter what it was like, nothing would change their minds. To me, this movie was not that far off of the first Avengers. Except, not as boring. (I’m one of the few that found the first 2 acts of that movie a bore). Hell, I enjoyed this more than Wonder Woman even. There is a definite bias toward Snyder and DC in general. What I have discovered is that 95% of fans and general public that went to… Read more »

November 18, 2017 10:39 pm
Reply to  Kal L

I didn’t think it was too bad (better than BVS for sure), but it wasn’t amazing. You guys make it seem like it was greatest movie of the year.
People are ALLOWED to have a negative opinion without being accused of bias.
And yes Zack Snyder is a horrible director.

Kal L
Kal L
December 1, 2017 11:12 pm
Reply to 

People are ALLOWED to have a positive opinion as well, without being accused of Fan-boying or Snyder Worship!.

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 10:42 pm
Reply to  Kal L

Kal, …….you are so right. I’m boiling that this movie has had the depth of incorrect and quite frankly WRONG reviews against it. There is NO WAY that a movie this good has not been subjected too and graded on a scale unlike any other superhero movie with out an agenda against it. The movie was terrific.

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 4:48 pm

To the movie itself. I for one can’t find a great deal to dislike about it. I didn’t find it to be slow, There has to be some plot that gets laid down. Everyone did a credible and likeable job. There was tons of action through out. And I never saw any questionable CGI. The special affects were for the most part great! They all interacted together well. Steppenwolf was a great villain. I was engaged all the way to the end. But for me one of the biggest issues from the other two movies was finally put to rest.… Read more »

Kal L
Kal L
November 18, 2017 8:04 pm
Reply to  redcape

Bruce, Aquaman, Cyborg, Flash.

Chef_el74
Chef_el74
November 18, 2017 8:07 pm
Reply to  redcape

It was Cyborg and Flash wasn’t it?

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 10:24 pm
Reply to  Chef_el74

Ding ding! Your right Chef!! It was Cyborg!!

Superman2878
November 18, 2017 7:08 pm

I just saw the film, and I thought it was alright. Definitely way better than Batman v Superman. First I’m going to say what I didn’t like about it, then I will say what I did to be fair. I’m not going to spoil it for people so I will leave out the plot and story. To start, I did not feel that Ezra Miller was right for the part of the flash. He just seemed to juvenile and silly to me. Maybe it has to do with the fact that there is already a flash tv show on the… Read more »

Superman2878
November 18, 2017 7:33 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

Oops. I meant to say bright red, blue, and yellow uniform

Superman2878
November 18, 2017 9:04 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

I don’t understand how cyborg managed to get the information about Batman being Bruce Wayne. Can anyone explain that to me? He was looking at images of Batman with his mask off. How did he get those pictures?

Kal L
Kal L
November 18, 2017 10:32 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

His “system” picked up that someone was searching for Victor Stone. He had audio from the mikes from the computer, and images from the cameras of Bruce sitting there without his cowl. He probably has FRS, so then learned that Bruce is Batman.

Randall1028
Randall1028
November 19, 2017 9:32 am
Reply to  Superman2878

The videos and photos had a ‘source’ at the bottom, and they were labeled as Batcave feeds.

Superman2878
November 23, 2017 1:21 am
Reply to  Superman2878

Wow, a -1 for asking a question? Um, why???

Kal L
Kal L
December 1, 2017 11:13 pm
Reply to  Superman2878

Probably someone that hated the movie… Or a Marvel fanboy :p

bhof
bhof
November 18, 2017 10:20 pm

I really liked it. Superman was phenomenal. The balanced use of his powers, his role as a source of inspiration and hope, the way he helped other League members succeed, and his sheer physical presence were all fantastic. I loved the Clark and Lois scenes. The other League members were also great. I am very happy with all 6 heroes. I thought the action sequences were very cool, and I appreciated how much the League worked together. I’m not sure if was the shorter run time or the loss of Hans Zimmer or the blend between two directors, but I… Read more »

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 10:45 pm
Reply to  bhof

Yea and you know what…was that or not the first time we’ve seen him use his super breath?? Dynamite!!!!!!!

redcape
redcape
November 18, 2017 10:28 pm

Keep the reviews coming everybody. Even if it’s the second time around. Man…..I am just jones-ing to see it again!

November 19, 2017 1:52 am

As far as my take on JL: The Bad: Cyborg CIG was distracting in some scenes. Didn’t really love the score besides the light motif to Williams theme and Elfmans. I missed MOS theme in this film needed more of it. Mustache was a problem a few times. No Darkseid in the end credits… The Meh: Steppenwolf was not a great villain but wasn’t any worse than Malekith, Enchantress, every Iron Man villain, every GOTG villian, Sandman, Electro, any X-Men not named Magneto….you get my point. It’s freaking Steppenwolf…hes a henchman…the problem is his boss wasn’t introduced….check above. Runtime could… Read more »

zendog
zendog
November 19, 2017 7:57 am

Everybody’s got their own opinion… Although, I’m not the greatest fan of the Zack Snyder movies, I will always look forward to a new movie that has Superman in it. JL Personal view – 6.5/10. Positives – most of the cast look like they have some fun in this flick and get on. It put a smile on my face at certain points and I laughed. Nice to see Superman with brighter colours again – although I’ll never be satisfied with all the glitzy, sparkling, plastic, fake six pack costumes they seem to use these days – but I am… Read more »

redcape
redcape
November 19, 2017 2:09 pm
Reply to  zendog

Good write up. I don’t call what they had to do to Henry’s face part of the CGI movie make up. It was weird what they had to do in the first place. But I got to say that I didn’t notice bad CGI! A lot of it for sure, but BAD??? If anything I would have liked more Superman. A little more of his awakening would have gone a long way. That was all done pretty quick. But I would be willing to bet there’s a lot left on the cutting room floor to make it 2 hours.

zendog
zendog
November 21, 2017 3:26 am
Reply to  redcape

Again – CGI is down to personal taste. I’ve seen so many modern day CGI movies now, that my brain is frazzled! Other CGI poor quality scenes – Steppenwolf (Give him a real actor for starters!) wormy, crystal things. Alien flowers popping up in Russia. It’s just too much for me. Some scenes are not bad and occasionally really cool, but then the production team spoils it with too many add ins and often twice as many explosions. I agree – I would have liked to have seen more Superman – Where does CGI work really well … MoS. Clark’s… Read more »

bob1969
bob1969
November 19, 2017 11:06 am

I rate this move 8/10. I thought it was a really good movie and if it doesn’t do well in it’s openly weekend,I’ll blame all of the critics who want JL to fail.

redcape
redcape
November 19, 2017 2:02 pm
Reply to  bob1969

You bet. Their nothing but back stabbing simps. If I was the WB I’d be hard pressed to show any of these movies to the critics before they release them to the theaters. There are two many people that like or not use these reviews as a means of deciding whether or not to go see it.

redcape
redcape
November 19, 2017 1:40 pm

You can dismiss and of the rumor mills about the money intake. By the end of the weekend it’ll pull in over $300mil.

redcape
redcape
November 19, 2017 1:58 pm
Reply to  redcape

that was supposed to be “all” of the rumor……

November 19, 2017 2:23 pm
Reply to  redcape

I saw a projected 281 million. It doesn’t look good….remember BVS almost made 400 opening weekend worldwide. Let’s hope word of mouth is good enough.

bhof
bhof
November 19, 2017 4:20 pm
Reply to 

I’m sure this can change, but right now the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes is 85%. (MoS: 75%, BvS: 63%, SS: 61%, WW: 89%) Hopefully that’s a good sign for word of mouth and staying power, especially with the long Thanksgiving weekend coming here in the U.S.

car2nst
car2nst
November 19, 2017 4:34 pm
Reply to  bhof

oh no…”you don’t know how The Box Office works”…lol

Thats what I was told on another thread when I said the same thing. (no bashing at you is intended just a little humous sarcasm)

I agree with you, & hope it does to. as I plan to see in on Tue

redcape
redcape
November 19, 2017 7:44 pm

Yes…..Thanks Giving weekend coming up will make a solid four day period of time for new comers and repeat viewing. There is no way that the vast majority of people that have seen it are dissing the movie. If anything their wholeheartedly recommending it. Also it’s worth mentioning that there’s still a large portion of overseas that the movie hasn’t opened in yet. I think by the end of next weekend the movie will be crossing the $700mil mark.

SuperDoc MD
SuperDoc MD
November 19, 2017 10:29 pm

I think the most frustrating thing I’ve encountered is how misunderstood the Rotten Tomato rating is… when people see 40% – they seem to take that as the grade assigned to the movie, akin to a grade you might get on an exam at school…and surely 40% is a failing grade… but what it means is that 40% of the viewers recommended it… the hard part for me, is that I can understand if someone didn’t love the movie… for someone not emotionally invested in the characters, there might not be as much there to find worthy of the price… Read more »

redcape
redcape
November 20, 2017 6:19 pm
Reply to  SuperDoc MD

There’s no flop yet so lets not be so presumptuous at this early stage. The tell tale will be at the end of next week.

SuperDoc MD
SuperDoc MD
November 20, 2017 11:18 pm
Reply to  redcape

I hope you’re right … I would expect word of mouth to spread.. I took a gamble bringing my kids, because I learned the hard way that SvB was not kid friendly… when word gets out that it won’t give them nightmares… it could bring alot of business to the theatre.. And I for one, will be seeing it again, something that, athough I loved SvB (or I guess it was BvS, but I always give the S top billing) I just could not devote the time commitment to see it again in the theatre.. (BTW the Theat”re” spelling is… Read more »

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 21, 2017 2:21 pm
Reply to  SuperDoc MD

That’s RT’s fault and its constant failure to communicate what its service offers. Review aggregate sites are doing more harm than good, because instead of acting like review repositories (which is extremely useful), they ascribe arbitrary numerical marks to a wide variety of diverse and complex opinions. It’s ridiculous. This goes for both critic and audience scores, for somewhat different reasons. We need a better service than RT or Metacritic.

Adekis
Adekis
November 21, 2017 12:16 am

9/10. I had such a good time. I’m a big Snyder fan and I’m a big Dawn of Justice fan, but one way or another I just really loved this whole movie. I can’t wait to see a director’s cut, I can’t wait to own the theatrical cut, I’m just so entirely hyped about super-heroes right now that I can’t even handle myself.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 21, 2017 2:27 pm

I’m late to the party (this news item should really be stickied for a while, if possible). I don’t like scores, but I’d rate it lower than Steve. The tonal shifts and some sloppy rewrites were a bit irritating, but the absolute worst thing about it was the entire first act. The movie becomes really entertaining around the first encounter with Steppenwolf and doesn’t let up (again, sloppy rewrites notwithstanding), but that entire first act is a disaster. My jaw had actually dropped at how bad it was. Fortunately, it gets better. Arguably, Superman was the best part about this.… Read more »

redcape
redcape
November 21, 2017 6:05 pm
Reply to  NeoRanger

Neo……what do you mean regarding the first act? I didn’t find hardly much to dislike aside from it being too short. And of course, I wanted more Superman. One thing I’ve noticed is that there has hardly been anything mentioned about his revival, anywhere! It’s like that part of the movie was invisible or not important.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 21, 2017 7:10 pm
Reply to  redcape

It was disjointed; scenes were popping in and out with no connection to each other or fluid transition. There are two or three Aquaman scenes and they’re not even consecutive. The action sequence with Wondy at the start was cool, but ultimately unneeded. The history lesson was also really cool, but put in the wrong spot. Having Batman and Wondy separated at the start and meeting later took up valuable time that the film didn’t have to spare. The pacing at the start is all over the place, going from slow to fast to slow without easing the viewer in.… Read more »

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 22, 2017 5:55 am

Steve! Thanks for adding the “important posts” bit at the end, it makes it far easier to track these posts. Much appreciated!

Phresh
Phresh
November 22, 2017 1:27 pm

I sure wish I knew the original run time before it was chopped down to 2 hours.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 22, 2017 8:16 pm
Reply to  Phresh

Reports say that the original movie was a bit shorter than 3 hours, though chances are they’d edit even that down to two and a half.

Phresh
Phresh
November 23, 2017 7:57 am
Reply to  NeoRanger

Thank you kindly for the reply. Let’s not be pessimistic my phunky phresh phriend as we shall HOPE that it’ll be closer to 3 hours.

Steve Wright
Steve Wright
November 24, 2017 9:33 am

Wow….a DC movie where 99 percent of the reviews in the thread are positive with no trolling?????? Not sure how to react to this…lol Anyway…my thoughts….very good movie with some story issues and a Batman actor who very much wants out and looks like he could care less. All the heroes were very well realized. It made me want to see more of The Flash and Aquaman so mission accomplished. WW was great and solidifies that Gal was born to play the role. Story wise? Basic run of the mill comic book story that is NO DIFFERENT THEN ANYTHING MARVEL… Read more »

redcape
redcape
November 25, 2017 1:28 pm
Reply to  Steve Wright

For the most part, pretty accurate. But I didn’t see the lack of interest with BenA and his Batman persona. They certainly mellowed him out from BvS. I liked his Batman portrayal in BvS. It’s the first time that Batman as far as I’m concerned actually kicked serious butt. The save Martha warehouse beat down scene was dynamite and I could only hope as far as further Batman movies that they would keep that up. Your very much accurate regarding Thor. And I’m not knocking Marvel here but for some reason they get a full blown pass from the critics… Read more »

Steve Wright
Steve Wright
November 25, 2017 3:01 pm
Reply to  redcape

I could be reading all the reports of Ben wanting out into my view of his performance but I was just meh with him…and this sucks because I really like him as Batman. Thor was funny. That’s it. It’s a good movie but it was a CGI orgy and a lot if that CGI was NOT good. But it gets a pass. While I don’t think there is a bias against DC, I do believe their preconceived ideas and views on this universe doesn’t allow them to be objective.

elvisdo
elvisdo
November 26, 2017 9:48 pm

This is a solid movie but not perfect by any means. However it was entertaining and that’s what I came for in the first place. My son has been turned off from the all the DCEU movies he has seen so far from MoS, BvS and Wonder Woman. To him, it was slow and boring. This is the one movie that captured his attention from beginning to end. He was extremely excited with what he witnessed and I have to agree with him. We both had lots of fun watching this.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 27, 2017 10:19 am
Reply to  elvisdo

How old’s your kid? I’m curious about the reactions of different age groups.

elvisdo
elvisdo
November 27, 2017 2:21 pm
Reply to  NeoRanger

He’s 10. I can see how Justice League is more to his liking. The previous movies had too much talking and just didn’t appeal to him. Considering he was even younger back then I can see his point.

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
November 27, 2017 4:59 pm
Reply to  elvisdo

Understandable and a good indicator regarding the appeal to younger kids. Toy sales aren’t very representative with cultural icons like these.

redcape
redcape
December 2, 2017 2:14 pm

If you look at what’s going on at the box office you can see that the movie is burning out. It’s stalling and if it’s gets up to $600mill it’ll be a miracle. I liked it but probably more so because of the characters. This movie was chopped to pieces and I believe vastly distorted from what it was originally intended to be for the sake of making it 2 hours. You can’t tell me that the uppers at the WB after seeing this before being released didn’t notice. They could have very well been tired of dealing with the… Read more »

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
December 2, 2017 6:39 pm
Reply to  redcape

If they saw it at all. Allegedly, their request for the under two-hours runtime was very last minute. Either way, there is no question on whether or not we got the movie Snyder and Terrio intended to make; we didn’t. The film we got doesn’t tie to the previous movies, it’s disjointed, it’s inconsistent, it has no point to make and barely a story to tell. As the days pass and despite my concerns over the future of the DCEU because of the financial failure of JL, I’m getting increasingly more angry with the film. I’ll bet good money that… Read more »

redcape
redcape
December 3, 2017 2:54 pm

Not been as bad a weekend as expected. Chugging along with a weekend total word wide of $567Mill! That of course is good all things considered but it should have been in the $700 range. It’s going to be interesting to see what next week will bring in.

sundevil82
sundevil82
December 4, 2017 8:02 am

So I thought I would wait a couple of weeks and see it a few times before I gave it a proper review. I’ve seen it now four times… once with family, like minded friends, by myself and with gf to get different perspectives (I find that who I watch it with Can give me a different perspective of the movie, although I recommend seeing it with like minded friends.) I’ll start with what I liked: – character interactions – all the characters were portrayed in a respectful way and I enjoyed the New takes on them (aquaman, flash) –… Read more »

NeoRanger
NeoRanger
December 4, 2017 1:41 pm
Reply to  sundevil82

It’s unlikely the execs are going anywhere. Warner reportedly had a good year and they had a good year last year. But this does point to an alternative: make their own DC studio, specifically for these movies. I don’t know if Disney’s ownership of Marvel is the same as that of WB’s with DC, but I’m pretty sure Disney doesn’t mess too much with Marvel Studios. What Marvel does works and they let them be. WB needs something similar pronto, because with their current structure, these films are just expensive cannon fodder. They won’t make or break them. A DC… Read more »

sundevil82
sundevil82
December 4, 2017 3:34 pm
Reply to  NeoRanger

I agree with you. I don’t know that they’ll go anywhere, but they’ve proved themselves to be very incompetent in handling these properties. A studio is most definitely needed and we need a quality person in charge of it. I like Geoff Johns, but I just think he has way too much going on to truly devote the attention this would need. I also always hear Bruce timms and Paul Dini’s Names, but they’re success in the animated medium doesn’t necessarily guarantee success in film. Plus, the last few animated films have been kind of misfires (that’s putting it delicately…… Read more »

redcape
redcape
December 4, 2017 1:33 pm

Despite all the negativity that has surrounded this movie, it’s still doing OK at the BO. Not setting any records but at least it’s still making money. Breaking even is a lot better than taking a red hit. But even at that, what it means for the future is or feels like it’s up in the air. Their not going to make a JL2 just to break even. One of the biggest issues that these superhero movies have that’s going against them is they cost too much to make. Seems like the initial nail biting isn’t over profits but whether… Read more »