A few days ago “Kick-Ass” director Matthew Vaughn told HeyUGuys.com that he has indeed had talks with Warner Bros. about taking on a new Superman film. The internet went wild for the news, and Collider.com asked him all about it when chatting with him during an interview for his latest film “Kingsman: The Golden Circle”.
“Weirdly if I did do Superman – and I made the mistake of telling someone yesterday I have spoken about it and then wallop (laughs) – I think my main take would be, it’s really boring but make a Superman film. I just don’t feel a proper Superman – I think Donner did it to perfection for that time. Just doing the modern – I wanna do a modern version of the Donner [version]. Go back to the source material… For me Superman is color, feel-good, heroic. He’s a beacon of light in darkness. And that’s what I think Superman should be.”
Back in 2010 Vaughn and comic writer Mark Millar pitched their idea for a Superman film to Warner Bros., but the studio decided to go with Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer’s pitch for “Man of Steel” instead.
I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he does not take the Donner version to be the ‘source material’. As much as I love the Donner version that is not the source material or Canon. I take current canon/source material to be anythig from the Byrne era onward. I’m still very excited for the prospect of him being signed, although as some of you have pointed out, I hope this wouldn’t be part of that elseworlds universe they’re now trying to establish. My number 1 issue will continue to be character/dialogue. Superman has not been… Read more »
“Heroic, feel-good, and a beacon of light” I love all that. But don’t throw away the baby with the bath-water. I don’t want another re-boot. Do all that with the Superman we have now. Use Man Of Steel as the jumping of point. We never got a real superman being superman movie.
I would argue that we did, but then he died like 30 seconds later.
I’ve said it before, but don’t bother hiring the guy unless you’re going to give him the creative freedom to do what he wants. If he wants to ditch Cavill, and the Snyderverse, then you absolutely let him. I understand I could be totally wrong, but based on everything that seems to be going on with Ben Affleck’s future, I feel like that’s what’s going to happen with Matt Reeves’ Batman, and I think the same could, and should happen for Superman. I mean, Vaughn says, “I just don’t feel a proper Superman –”, and he sort of fades off… Read more »
I think that they’re going to attempt to rewrite history with Flashpoint. I think the studio took a real misstep when they had their knee jerk reaction to man of steel. Yes that movie wasn’t perfect, but i maintain that with a couple of rewrites or a fresh pair of eyes to gloss over it , it could have been great. After MOS we could have had some real character development in a sequel but no. Instead they insisted on cramming in Batman (who may have worked in a superman sequel as a background character investigating superman instead of the… Read more »
Yea, Jonathan really is the sticking point for me in this whole thing. I could probably live with everything else that’s happened in this universe thus far, but Clark letting Jonathan die in the tornado is just an absolute deal breaker. It was just wrong on every level, and the fact that no one seemed to question it shows how out of touch with the character they are. That’s why I just can’t go forward enjoying this franchise. Even if they were to make better movies with a more optimistic Superman, there’d always be that, “Yea, but that tornado scene…”… Read more »
Well as I said, putting Goyer and Snyder in charge initially was not the smartest idea. I thought Nolan and his brother were going to be more involved and was skeptical after finding out they weren’t going to be. That being said, I don’t have the hate that a lot of people have for MOS. I really liked it in fact, but to me it felt like a very generic version of Superman for reasons ive already mentioned (the whole lack of superman dialogue clearly irks me). To me it was a good and decent movie that had the potential… Read more »
Sundevil82, I have heard you say that more than a few times regarding the fact that Superman hasn’t said anything in the last 3 films and that they give him almost no dialogue. I couldn’t agree more. You are completely right. That is definitely one of the things that has bothered me most about these films and is one of the main reasons people can’t relate to him. It’s nothing to do with his powers. In Batman V Superman he probably has less lines than Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator 2 and he is meant to be a machine. I even… Read more »
You and I are in total agreement. I don’t know why anyone would argue against superman having more to say. It’s pretty sad when Batman, the dark shadowy figure has more lines than superman. I think someone tallied up the lines he had in the theatrical cut of BvS and it was like 43 lines. I’m tired of the character being blamed for lazy writing. It happens in comics too. And you are absolutely right about this being the reason people can’t relate to him. It has nothing to do with his powers, Goyer and other writers have given him… Read more »
I not quite sure what he’s implying for a superman film. If it is what I think he’s saying then I like it, but there are alot of unknown variables to his version. Is it a continuation of Cavill’s or Reeve’s? Or is it another reboot? If it’s a continuation of Cavill’s, how many more movie is he signed on for? Has he signed on for any more? If it’s a reboot or a continuation of Reeve’s Superman, who’s he going to cast?
Definitely would not be any kind of continuation of the Reeve films. He was just saying Richard Donner made a great Superman movie for that time period. I think what he sees in the Reeve films is that they embraced who the character is for the most part, and that’s what he would want to do if given the chance. If he gets that chance, it’s going to be either a sequel with Cavill, or a reboot. It won’t have anything to do with the Reeve films.
I think it’s just to soon to tell without official news that there will a new superman movie. As far as I can tell they are just asking if he’d be interested in doing a superman movie if he’s ever asked to do one.
A large percentage of the film audience for the most part doesn’t care to the depth that us hard core fans do. The things pointed out in MoS that are constantly harped on can’t be changed. Another origin re-boot??? No thanks. And certain people clamoring for all this missing dialog. When Superman shows up, people expect him to do super things that are required. What’s he supposed to do, fly around talking to himself? Fly to a coffee shop and talk to people? People would run if they put him in dialog drenched environments. BUT…in saying that, I would agree… Read more »
I don’t think people wanted the films inundated with scenes upon scenes with dialogue. I think they, like me, complain about lack of dialogue as it really cuts off any sort of emotional tying to him as a character. All you need is a few lines here and there showing glimpses of his personality, his character or what his motivations are. Look at the first scene of him rescuing the oil rig workers in Man Of Steel. He rips the door open and walks in on fire. He says nothing. They just look at him and he looks back. We… Read more »
I don’t understand people arguing against superman having lines in a film with his name on it. Without that you’re just basically watching a generic action/superhero movie.