Henry Cavill Talks About Returning as Superman

My hope is with Affleck quite likely done with Batman, and Matt Reeves doing his own thing with his movie, that it will give WB the confidence they can do the same with Superman, and just start fresh there as well. He desperately needs it. There’s no where to go with Cavill’s Superman. All three of his films are basically moot at this point as WB no doubt wants to distance themselves from them. If they do move forward with Cavill there’d likely be some retconning, and very little mention of any of the events that came before. We saw… Read more »

Too many people want to “start over” when something in life goes wrong…there is no reset button in life. Stop dwelling on the past mistakes. Pick up the pieces, learn from your mistakes & carry on. Rebooting would be pointless, not to mention a financial disaster, all while pissing off the actual fans & confusing the common movie viewer (which would make for less ticket sales…and thus even less money after spending all that money rebooting)

You know we’re talking about a fictional character, with (depending on how you count Superman Returns) seven or eight independent live-action takes to date, right? It’s not a marriage that we need to give a chance to work or a job that we regret taking. It’s a distraction,that if we’re going to pay the increasingly ridiculous prices to see in the theater had better be pretty danged good.

I’m sure Sony & Fox execs thought that rebooting & replacing actors was good for the Spiderman & Fantastic Four franchises to. Guess they were wrong….

This is why WB should just stay the course, ACTUALLY fix the problem & truck on. The actors are not the problem nor have ever been in theses movies…it’s the story, & mostly WB’s meddling.

Your answer does not solve the problem & would just be doomed to repeat itself all over again, just with different actors. Some people just don’t learn from their mistakes….

I guess I should clarify that I mean they’re knowledge should extend beyond the Donner version.

Superman wasn’t a deadbeat dad. He didn’t know he had a son, if he did then he would’ve been. To say that he is a father to an illegitimate son is more accurate.

I’m sorry I’m not trying to be mean or anything, I’m just pointing out that it’s a commen misconception on superman’s paternity to Jason in the film.

Although, at the same time… assuming they had intercourse during Lois’s Ovulation… meaning within 3 weeks she would have noticed her menses didnot arrive… so… OK, he’s not a “deadbeat Dad” because he didn’t know he had a kid… but he had sex with Lois, and then left planet earth less than 2 weeks later without telling her? that just makes him a Dick…then comes back hurt and upset that she’s with another guy?!? Stalking them/invading their privacy even… either way, this Superman is not honorable.

Yeah, I wasn’t happy about that part of the film either. It was out of character for superman to leave Lois without an explanation. I do think Lois knew he was the father because she said “how could you leave us?”, referring to when she was pregnant. However I don’t think Superman knew she was, and that maybe he thought she meant “us” as in the world. I’d also point out that when Lex asked Lois about who the boy’s father was, she said “Richard”, to which Lex asked “are you sure?” To me, it looks like Lois was trying… Read more »

This was meant to be a direct sequel to Superman II. She doesn’t remember sleeping with Superman, amnesia kiss. That’s why she was so shocked when Jason threw the piano, she wasn’t expecting her human child to have super powers. Afterwards she figures it out, but she was clueless up to that point.

Yeah, I heard that as well.Singer meant for this movie to be a sequel but he ignored 3 and 4. I forgot about the piano though. And the amnesia from Superman 2 makes sense, unless they were together sometime after the events of Superman 2, but who knows? So then what about when Lois said at the end of the movie” I wanted to tell…”line? Did she remember? Did seeing her son throw the piano trigger a memory? Did she retain some memory from the events of superman2? I know she told Superman about their son while he was in… Read more »

It was too long ago to find a source, but Singer had implied that the mind-rape kiss didn’t happen in his version. I believe he was going more for “she wasn’t sure whose kid it was”, because she entered into a relationship with Richard shortly after Superman left.

It’s to bad there wasn’t a sequel. I wonder how superman would’ve approached fatherhood, and where the Superman,Lois, Richard would’ve gone.

This still doesn’t excuse the fact that Superman leaves her shortly after sleeping with her, and not telling her…

lets for argument sake say its less than 7 weeks Gestation (5 weeks from conception) – at 7 weeks, superman surely could have heard an extra,very fast heart beat coming from within lois… whether or not he thought she’d be pregnant still doesn’t excuse leaving someone that soon after having Sex… having sex then Ghosting someone?…this behaviour wouldmake him the most hated man in the world among Women’s Forums..

Yes I do agree with you. He should have told her where he was going especially since they were intimate. Not that I’m excusing his behavior, but I do think that it’s possible that Superman didn’t think he could get Lois pregnant. Technically they are both different species. Superman is Kryptonian and Lois is human. For some reason they decided for the sake of the story that humans and Kryptonians can produce offspring. If I remember correctly , in the show Lois and Clark, Clark and Lois could not conceive a child do to the fact they are different species.… Read more »

I agree with you. Routh’s problem wasn’t specially him but the movie overall. The same that happend to Cavill’s Superman, he did what he could with what they gave him. Unfortunately when they allowed Cavill to get the right Superman, the movie wasn’t at the same level.
Of course I’m speaking about Justice League.

I hope to meet both Cavill and Routh someday. I hear that they are both nice to the fans.

LOL…LOVE the downvote for stating the truth. Billy Dee Willimas a minute character in Batman and not the main character. Look how well the 3rd & 4th Batman movies flopped after recasting Keaton with Kilmer & Clooney. Point made…lol it was only more than a decade after those movies was it a good idea to reboot & recast. See, sometime recasting so soon is NOT the best idea as has been proven in Hollywood multiple times

Actually, Batman Forever did quite well for itself, and did much better then Batman Returns.

uh…NO…lol The casting of Catwoman & Penguin were praised more than the choices in Batman Forever & Batman Returns & the budget was lower so it actually made more profit than Forever and Batman & Robin (both of their Budgets were more than Batman Returns). you know…that number thing…and both Batman & Robin & Forever had horrible reviews critics and viewers alike, and considered the 2 worst Batman films. Where do you get your information from??
Sorry…try again

The bat nipples, and master card were out of Clooney’s control. Cavill’s CGI mouth was also out of his control. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s sadly one of the more significant things he’s known for in the role then anything regarding his actual performance.

Thats where you are wrong. People do not associate Cavill’s performance & portrayal of Superman from the CGI ‘stache.,,.but rather the JL Movie itself. Only haters & trollers would go to such lengths to make the 2 synonymous. Cavil’s Superman is not as bad as you are falsely making it out to be. I have yet to read many articles that they should can him or replace him,., but yet again as I have stated (to your silence) people have over Jesse Eisenberg’s Lex & Leto’s Joker (and the solo joker movie does not count as that has not even… Read more »

I’ve said I get the sense general audiences are largely indifferent towards Cavill. Meaning they don’t like, or dislike him. I’m sure they think he’s fine, but overall couldn’t care less if they ever see him in another movie, and that will continue the trend of less then stellar box office numbers. The stench of failure is all over Cavill’s Superman, and would be very difficult to overcome going forward.

No…actually the public views Cavil as Superman just fine. (from his acting of what he had to go by from what was written, his look & physique, his costume & his on & off screen persona & enjoyment of the character ) Only a few minority doesn’t care for him. Please show me credible articles that state otherwise. Cavil is up there among the top Superman actors. Christopher Reeve being the best of course. It’s obvious from your numerous posts you didn’t care for him, but that opinion is in the minority & hardly the problem with his Superman in… Read more »

I almost talked to Christopher Reeve once. He was on the Larry King show and they were taking calls. Unfortunately for me, by the time I called the station there was a busy signal and they had just taken there last caller. I wish I could’ve talked to him.

Damn Spidey2878, that would have been awesome. Sorry you missed the chance.

Thank you.
Yeah, it was unfortunate. But at least the episode was pretty cool. He talked about his time as Superman, and his thoughts on Smallville.

This has nothing to do with Cavill, and his performance. I’m just laying out the situation, and how WB very likely feels about it. Whether people like Cavill or not is irrelevant. Frankly, I think audiences are generally indifferent towards him because he’s been that mediocre, and forgettable in the role, but that’s besides the point. This is all about the numbers, and how the studio very likely views Cavill’s series of films. WB thought MOS should have made more money then it did. WB no doubt thought BvS would crack a billion dollars. It didn’t. The less said about… Read more »

The situation, as you call it of recasting the role of a main character in a franchise (excluding injury, death & other unforeseen uncontrollable events outside of filming a movie) is just a dumb and pointless move. I state again, would cost them more money than what they have lost previously. It all comes down to that. THOSE are the real numbers. It’s actually easier and less costly to replace people within the WB company that nobody knows who they are vs the bad publicity of deciding to recast a celebrity) That would also just feed more fuel to the… Read more »

So, he’s better then Nic Cage? Gotcha… Hell of an achievement. We’re really setting the bar high here, huh?

Actually yes…since Nicolas Cage is an established, high profile Celebrity/Actor (his acting talent is debatable), I’d say Cavil is doing quite well as Superman, for someone with a smaller resume than Nicolas Cage.

Afleck’s personal demons & depression are probably the root of his back and forth decisions of staying as Batman.. The Joker we have only had in half of a movie & not 3 like Superman. Similar to recasting Mark Rufallo after Ed Norton…they did after 1 movie. It did cause some confusion but Disney/marvel pretends Ed Norton’s Hulk movie did not exists…hence during alot of movie collection set they don’t “advertise” the Incredible Hulk. Can you imagine if they kept Norton for the Avengers Movie but replaced him in Age of Ultron? Yea…..wouldn’t work so well from a consistent &… Read more »

Your logic is severely flawed. Jessie Eisenberg & Jared Leto are also the most recent cast for their respective characters & yet they are more hated on than Cavil. And for the record MOS did pretty well. Anyone who expected it to make over a billion dollars has no idea how the box office works, or Hollywood. WB I’m sure wants more money made but when their first 5 movies have well outgrossed Marvel’s first 5 I’d say they are doing ok (not awesome but ok) But your trollish attitude is yep lets throw it all away spend even more… Read more »

It wouldn’t be a reboot or sequel… just a stand alone story. It can be that without referencing anything that’s come before and without tying into what the other characters are doing. I don’t understand what makes you seem to think that is Impossible. As far as the movies underperforming though, it’s absoulutely not Cavills or the characters fault. It’s the people in charge hiring the wrong people from eh get go to do this character. Snyder and Goyer tried and some people liked it and some didn’t. We don’t need to get into it, but what does need to… Read more »

Oh no,…gasp…..we MUST recast Cavil and start fresh, side-stepping the REAL problem (which is what you mentioned about the wrong people in charge …mainly WB’s meddling) and keep doing the same costly mistakes over & over (by more meddling), instead of swallowing their executive pride & owning up to their mistakes by moving forward & fixing them along the way…..according to cpm72586….ROTFLMFAO

I’m not claiming the failures of the DCEU are Cavill’s fault. I never have. The problem is he’s associated with it, and has been a part of three films that have failed to meet expectations. That’s an issue, and one that WB is likely very mindful of as they move forward. Whether they continue with Cavill or not, you can bet it’s a decision they won’t be reaching without a lot of thought, and consideration. Everything, and anything is very likely on the table. We’ll see where things go. I’m hoping for a reboot. I have no idea if it… Read more »

I as well had no problem with Zod and his demise. But I have no doubt that ZS watched all previous Superman movies before starting MoS. You remember in STM when Clark’s father had a heart attack and died. Young Clark talking to his mother said, “all these powers and I couldn’t save him”. And yet Snyder did the exact opposite. All these powers and he could have saved him yet stood by and watched him die. I know what he was trying to convey, it just didn’t make sense. We can do without that.

Absolutely redcape. When you watch that scene in the film, you can tell it is REALLY trying to make you believe you are watching a very hard-hitting and profound moment that is exceptional character-building story telling. But it isn’t. It is utterly pointless. All it does is give Superman a more dark and awful origin story than Batman and that is saying something. It doesn’t even affect the storyline or character arc in any way, shape or form. The first thing we see Clark do in the film is save a bunch of people from an oil rig fire. So… Read more »

Aw man, cpm72586 if I could upvote your comment twice I would! I could not agree with you more. You are completely right. During the whole build up to Man Of Steel there were so many interviews, videos, news pieces and articles where all you heard was this buzzword; ‘RELATABLE’. I don’t know how many times I heard Zack Snyder saying “We wanted to make him relatable”. Even when Han Zimmer was asked to describe the film in one word he paused and said “……HUMANITY”. This was all honestly music to my ears. Then I watched the film. He hardly… Read more »

This scene along with the Martha scene will always be remembered For being amitious but completely failing in execution. Yes I know what both scenes were going for but they were handled extremely poorly. Whatever Snyder and Goyer were going for in both instances came off as terrible. But then again, I don’t expect much nuance from someone whose only word to describe anything is ‘awesome.’

Well this has been the big problem. The way all the WB/DC movies have ended really hasn’t set anything up for the future. Aside from Superman coming back in JL, there really hasn’t been continuity between any of them. Years have gone by and people have been raving about the way Marvel has built up their steps in one movie blending over to a another. There’s been rank comparisons between the two companies but their not valid because the comparisons are apples and oranges. WB/DC is not Marvel. I for one don’t want them to be. While sequels can be… Read more »

I guess time will tell on what they have planned.