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Superman: The Unauthorized Biography Glen Weldon (Author) A celebration of Superman's life and history - in time for his 75th birthday. How has the Big Blue Boy Scout stayed so popular for so long? How has he changed with the times, and what essential aspects of him have remained constant? This fascinating biography examines Superman as a cultural phenomenon through 75 years of action-packed adventures, from his early years as a social activist in circus tights to his growth into the internationally renowned demigod he is today. Hardcover: 352 pages |
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Superman: The Unauthorized Biography Glen Weldon (Author) A celebration of Superman's life and history - in time for his 75th birthday. How has the Big Blue Boy Scout stayed so popular for so long? How has he changed with the times, and what essential aspects of him have remained constant? This fascinating biography examines Superman as a cultural phenomenon through 75 years of action-packed adventures, from his early years as a social activist in circus tights to his growth into the internationally renowned demigod he is today. Hardcover: 352 pages |
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Noteworthy Superman dates to remember...
May 1: Glenn Ford, Jonathan Kent in Superman: The Movie, born in Sainte-Christine, Quebec, Canada in 1916.
May 3: Jackie Cooper, Perry White in the Superman films, dies in 2011, aged 88.
May 5: Henry Cavill, Superman in the 2013 Superman Man of Steel movie, born in Jersey, Channel Islands in 1983.
May 7: The animated movie Superman: Unbound is released on Blu-ray and DVD.
May 8: Salome Jens, Martha Kent in the Superboy TV series, born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1935.
May 9: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut screening at the BFI Southbank in London, England at 8.45pm.
May 11: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut screening at the BFI Southbank in London, England at 8.40pm.
May 11: Gerard Christopher, the second actor to play the lead role in the Superboy TV series, born in New York City, New York in 1959.
May 13: Writer Marv Wolfman (The Adventures of Superman) born in 1946.
May 18: Tickets for Advanced Screenings of Man of Steel go on sale at 8.00am at Walmart stores across the USA.
May 21: Joan Alexander, best known as Lois Lane from the 1940s Superman Radio Series, dies in 2009, aged 94.
May 23: Artist Win Mortimer (Action Comics, Supergirl) born in 1919.
May 1: Glenn Ford, Jonathan Kent in Superman: The Movie, born in Sainte-Christine, Quebec, Canada in 1916.
May 3: Jackie Cooper, Perry White in the Superman films, dies in 2011, aged 88.
May 5: Henry Cavill, Superman in the 2013 Superman Man of Steel movie, born in Jersey, Channel Islands in 1983.
May 7: The animated movie Superman: Unbound is released on Blu-ray and DVD.
May 8: Salome Jens, Martha Kent in the Superboy TV series, born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1935.
May 9: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut screening at the BFI Southbank in London, England at 8.45pm.
May 11: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut screening at the BFI Southbank in London, England at 8.40pm.
May 11: Gerard Christopher, the second actor to play the lead role in the Superboy TV series, born in New York City, New York in 1959.
May 13: Writer Marv Wolfman (The Adventures of Superman) born in 1946.
May 18: Tickets for Advanced Screenings of Man of Steel go on sale at 8.00am at Walmart stores across the USA.
May 21: Joan Alexander, best known as Lois Lane from the 1940s Superman Radio Series, dies in 2009, aged 94.
May 23: Artist Win Mortimer (Action Comics, Supergirl) born in 1919.
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 Drop The Red Undies For New Film?
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| adam_wilde2310 |
Posted on 09/07/2010 07:37
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 Newbie  Posts: 3 Joined: July 9, 2010 |
I think that the character is too recognizable and too iconic to change anything about the design! Have you seen Tim Burton's early Supposed Superman Designs, they are too far away from the original design.... (p.s. Don't know if these images are real film design, BUT THEY ARE NOT GOOD!)  NO RED UNDERWEAR = WRONG 
You See. You See. Your Stupid Minds. Stupid. Stupid!
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| superdupe6934 |
Posted on 09/07/2010 10:47
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I've never understood why everyone has such a problem with the red trunks. They don't really look like something from the Fruit of the Loom and they help to break up all that blue nicely. For Batman in film, he's never really had a spandex look to his uniform since the days of Tim Burton. He always wears full body armor and the trunks just don't mesh with it. Plus he tends to drape himself in his cape so often that you don't really find yourself critiquing his uniform that much. I've always thought that a funny way to explain the trunks would be that Martha had some left over fabric (boots or cape, take your pick) and would be insistant on not wasting any material "There we go Clark, you're all set!" "This looks really nice mom but what's with the shorts?" "I had left over material and you need more than a belt to break up all that blue." "But I think I'll look weird!" "I think the bad guys are gonna worry more about the six foot three mystery man flying after them than what he's wearing when he does it!" Clark grumbles begrudgingly, tries on suit checks the mirror "You know, I think you're right mom. I mean the idea sounds silly, but it really does work!" "Don't ever doubt your mother." 
Edited by superdupe6934 on 09/07/2010 13:23 |
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| Kal-El85 |
Posted on 16/07/2010 11:27
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Member  Posts: 199 Joined: July 13, 2005 |
I think the look of the character can be updated to reflect more modern tastes w/o loosing the overall iconic look of the character. If you want people to take the character seriously in a modern context on the big screen the under-roos have to go.
Edited by Kal-El85 on 16/07/2010 11:28 |
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| redcapemr |
Posted on 17/07/2010 00:21
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Newbie Posts: 18 Joined: February 28, 2010 |
I like the idea ... |
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| superjosh34 |
Posted on 18/07/2010 18:25
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Member Posts: 128 Joined: December 11, 2009 |
adam_wilde2310 wrote: I think that the character is too recognizable and too iconic to change anything about the design! Have you seen Tim Burton's early Supposed Superman Designs, they are too far away from the original design.... (p.s. Don't know if these images are real film design, BUT THEY ARE NOT GOOD!) NO RED UNDERWEAR = WRONG ok, that movie woulda been craptastical, but don't criticize it unfairly. the top image is an alternate suit, Burton wanted Doomsday to kill Supes and then have the eradicator bring him back and transform itself into a suit that would allow Supes to have powers. I'm pretty sure the top one is genuine, but I dont know about the bottom one, tho it could be. --Josh--
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| Artemis |
Posted on 20/07/2010 16:32
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You know...I think my heart would want the old suit just the way it was meant to be and originally was. But times (heroes) were so different back then...think if a hero came on the scene now...what would we expect? Would this work? Comics ware different, and lets face it...things translate differently on paper than in film. Is why crossovers are called adaptations. We want superman to be accepted by a generation that doesn't really know him. Not like we do. They do not have a "set in stone" idea in their heads like we do. Campy doesn't sell they way it once did. I think brief-free suit would work if it were subtle. As a matter of fact, anyone remember the Greatest American Hero? I know, it sounds like a stretch...but revisit that suit. I think a tech-advanced Supes version of that suit would work and not really offend those loyal to the old suit. You might not even notice them missing. And I also think that its one way the rest of the suit as we all love it would be able to stay the same. Please consider looking at old images of GAH. ~Artemis
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| Artemis |
Posted on 20/07/2010 16:40
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Member Posts: 222 Joined: July 29, 2006 |
PS. Find video...see the suit in action. That colored seam breaking up the bottom of what looks like along tank makes a big difference....and typo correction, comics ARE different..not ware, lol.
~Artemis
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| The Red-Blue Blur |
Posted on 21/07/2010 01:02
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 Super Member  Posts: 519 Joined: December 14, 2008 |
Also: That was Tim Burton's idea! Both of those are horrible designs for Superman! Your saying that if you put the red underwear on Superman in those pictures that it would look good... No. In fact, the red underwear in those pictures make it look worst. |
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| 7heBoss |
Posted on 21/07/2010 03:20
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Newbie Posts: 1 Joined: July 17, 2010 |
I like the suit the way it is. However, I'm not completely again the idea of changing it because I am sure hollywood has some amazing that costume designers that would do a good job updating the design without completely destroying the original concept. I don't like most of the fan made costumes though. The only fan-made costume that I have ever seen that I actually kind of liked was this one
Edited by 7heBoss on 21/07/2010 03:22 |
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| foxmulder241 |
Posted on 21/07/2010 17:40
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Junior Member Posts: 41 Joined: May 2, 2010 |
I think it's bad idea to try to change a hero's costume it fails most of the time most must remember the electric/ice blue suit from the mid 90s which didn't last, A classic shouldn't be changed |
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| damz-el |
Posted on 23/07/2010 02:32
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Newbie Posts: 11 Joined: October 26, 2008 |
I find it interesting that nobody had real complaints about the redesign of the emblem (ie..getting rid of the bulb at the end of the S) and yet ppl are so fascinated about his underpants  The Dark Knight???
Edited by damz-el on 23/07/2010 03:18 sup, sup and away.......Guinness is good!!
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| Supereyes |
Posted on 23/07/2010 12:19
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adam_wilde2310 wrote: Oh God! Did you have to show that again? I remember staying at the hospital for two weeks after seeing that photo. Looking at it again.... Aghh! No!... *dies* It's worse than the first pic. I was thinking if Chris Nolan directed Superman, how would he do it? Obviously, he has made quite a few changes in his Batman films. I wondered if he directed Superman, would he remove the underwear? The underwear is cheesey, but I can't see his suit without it. If he just has a yellow belt, not sure. Maybe they can just find a way to make it look more like trunks. I completely disagree though that Superman looks outdated. I will say that I can agree that, to many people, Superman is no longer considered apart of the mainstream superhero society. Because of Superman Returns' huge embarassment and representation of Superman, Superman could not compare with today's superhero movies, Spider-Man, Batman and so on. I had expected, because of Singer's background, he directed X-Men for God sakes, I thought he would have made Superman a little more comparable to the rest of the superheroes. Alot of ignorant people have always said Superman is lame, but the truth is, he's not. Unfortunately, the movie really did represent to what non-Superman fans have always thought of Superman: lame. Thanks, Singer! One of the few things Singer may have done right was by keeping Superman's same material, including the underwear. I don't see Superman going without his underwear in this movie. The first rule in filmmaking is "Never f--k with a classic." Removing the underwaer would be destroying Superman. This reminds me, when I was a kid, I wanted a Superman costume so badly, and I didn't have one. All I had was a Superman t-shirt. To dress like Superman, I thought I'd find my red sweater and tie it around my neck, and use my blue warm up pants, and then lastly, put my red underwear over them. 
 ~I look upon my powers as a gift...Not mine alone, but for anyone who needs them~ Superman: Peace on Earth Click Here to see my Super Fan Art!: http://groups.msn...lery2.msnw |
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| superjosh34 |
Posted on 23/07/2010 14:05
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Member Posts: 128 Joined: December 11, 2009 |
my biggest plea for this suit is this: no more stupid yellow rubber belts!!!! it's an alien alloy, not cheap plastic. it needs to look like gold or bronze. I can't believe that they didnt change that in Superman Returns, they changed things less needing of change. in the comics, it usually looks reflective, so it should in the movie too. how does anybody else feel about this?
--Josh--
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| Fulcon |
Posted on 25/07/2010 20:31
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Senior Member Posts: 378 Joined: July 25, 2010 |
*looks at the Tim Burton pictures with Nick Cage* AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!! *eye twitches and faints* Okay, guys...those costumes are hideous. Beyond hideous. Just...*spits in disgust* Bleuuugh... They DO have one right thought in their brain: The Costume needs to be updated. It does... 7heBoss wrote: I like the suit the way it is. However, I'm not completely again the idea of changing it because I am sure hollywood has some amazing that costume designers that would do a good job updating the design without completely destroying the original concept. I don't like most of the fan made costumes though. The only fan-made costume that I have ever seen that I actually kind of liked was this one ...and that's what I'm talking about. It perfectly keeps the spirit of Superman while at the same time looking modern. I like it. I like it a lot. I think everyone else should like it too. Who agrees? You know, the reason I like Superman is because he is an unabashed good guy, not this angsting dude with an anguished past who kills people while angsting.
It's time to show people why Light and Bright Heroes are awesome again. ---------- Your mission: Draw a picture of a crossover between the cast of Superman: Returns and the cast of Smallville. How would the two cast's interact? PM me when you have succeeded. |
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| The Red-Blue Blur |
Posted on 26/07/2010 15:14
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Super Member Posts: 519 Joined: December 14, 2008 |
Supereyes wrote: adam_wilde2310 wrote: Oh God! Did you have to show that again? I remember staying at the hospital for two weeks after seeing that photo. Looking at it again.... Aghh! No!... *dies* It's worse than the first pic. I was thinking if Chris Nolan directed Superman, how would he do it? Obviously, he has made quite a few changes in his Batman films. I wondered if he directed Superman, would he remove the underwear? The underwear is cheesey, but I can't see his suit without it. If he just has a yellow belt, not sure. Maybe they can just find a way to make it look more like trunks. I completely disagree though that Superman looks outdated. I will say that I can agree that, to many people, Superman is no longer considered apart of the mainstream superhero society. Because of Superman Returns' huge embarassment and representation of Superman, Superman could not compare with today's superhero movies, Spider-Man, Batman and so on. I had expected, because of Singer's background, he directed X-Men for God sakes, I thought he would have made Superman a little more comparable to the rest of the superheroes. Alot of ignorant people have always said Superman is lame, but the truth is, he's not. Unfortunately, the movie really did represent to what non-Superman fans have always thought of Superman: lame. Thanks, Singer! One of the few things Singer may have done right was by keeping Superman's same material, including the underwear. I don't see Superman going without his underwear in this movie. The first rule in filmmaking is "Never f--k with a classic." Removing the underwaer would be destroying Superman. This reminds me, when I was a kid, I wanted a Superman costume so badly, and I didn't have one. All I had was a Superman t-shirt. To dress like Superman, I thought I'd find my red sweater and tie it around my neck, and use my blue warm up pants, and then lastly, put my red underwear over them. Haha, yeah. In my head, when I think of a Nolan Superman movie, I see him with more of those athletic/gymnastic type of trunks on. |
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| Hypoxic |
Posted on 31/07/2010 08:00
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Bah. There's no need to change the suit.
Easy, miss. I've got you.
_____ Get away from me, padre. You reek of the irrational. - Lex Luthor |
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| naam |
Posted on 09/08/2010 05:10
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 Newbie Posts: 10 Joined: August 25, 2006 |
Yes! I agree that we can keep the suit iconic in the movies even without the red undies. The undies work well in the comics but for a live action movie it's a bit dated.
Superman is the Best
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| Warch |
Posted on 09/08/2010 05:40
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Newbie Posts: 1 Joined: November 18, 2009 |
7heBoss wrote: I like the suit the way it is. However, I'm not completely again the idea of changing it because I am sure hollywood has some amazing that costume designers that would do a good job updating the design without completely destroying the original concept. I don't like most of the fan made costumes though. The only fan-made costume that I have ever seen that I actually kind of liked was this one Would be more than happy if this was the live action suit! Whilst I agree that the suit is iconic, I think a modern audience needs an updated suit if they will take Superman "seriously" and this would definetely fit the bill. |
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| Fulcon |
Posted on 10/08/2010 22:21
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Senior Member Posts: 378 Joined: July 25, 2010 |
You know what I've realized just by looking at that hideous thing? That's Bizzarro's costume. Just throwing it out there. You know, the reason I like Superman is because he is an unabashed good guy, not this angsting dude with an anguished past who kills people while angsting.
It's time to show people why Light and Bright Heroes are awesome again. ---------- Your mission: Draw a picture of a crossover between the cast of Superman: Returns and the cast of Smallville. How would the two cast's interact? PM me when you have succeeded. |
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| sph683 |
Posted on 15/08/2010 13:54
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Newbie Posts: 4 Joined: August 8, 2009 |
Overall, the suit looks perfect the way it is. But I wouldn't mind losing the trunks in favor of like a red belt or something. I like this design, just change the "S" to the classic version.  This ones pretty good too. Again just change the "S". |
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